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Go look at the polling for issues and ballout provisions that passed. The US isn't as divided as you think it is.

jointpdf 6y ago
For example, these Fox News voter analysis results (and the screenshots themselves) are really something. Relatively major consensus on things like climate, renewable energy, healthcare, etc. https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570?s=21 https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/13237520320004505...
- tekknik 6y ago
  Fox News is considered liberal by most on the right these days. Using it as a poll for where the right stands is irresponsible at best.
  - 3131s 6y ago
    Well that was inevitable with the removal of some of their more prominent sexual predators.
    - tekknik 6y ago
      And yet another reason for the division right here.
  - hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
    This is kind of hilarious to me. Fox News is unwilling to completely ignore reality and thus it is "liberal" these days.
    - tekknik 6y ago
      More like there’s better. Fox isn’t fair and balanced and never really was and they started getting sensational. The right doesn’t want a soap opera for news. A recent example with when they called AZ by blindly listening to AP when anybody that knows basic math could see a large chunk of votes still remaining. When you prove you can’t be trusted you lose your audience.
tekknik 6y ago
Go look at how polls are extrapolated. Specifically give me the exact formula and raw data so I can confirm it myself, like we do in other such situations. You won’t find it. Stop trusting polls.
crocodiletears 6y ago
I lie to or hang up on pollsters every time they reach out to me. I don't trust them, and I don't know who they contract under. They often ask leading questions, regardless. If I ran into an exit pollster, I would've told them I wrote in Ross Perot. I started doing this a couple years ago, when I was called up, and asked to take a survey. The young woman on the other end was very polite, and the questions at first seemed reasonable. The further I went into the survey, the more nakedly leading its questions became, clearly meant to support Republican talking points. I told her I was done, hung up,and since then I've only given false answers to political survey calls. If my representative wants my opinion, they can host a town hall, or reach out to me directly. I'll send an email or call their office if there's an issue I care about. If our politicians know nothing, and receive bad data, then they'll either cross their fingers and be more straight about their convictions, or be badly disappointed whenever they try to pander.
A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
Given how flawed the polling for this presidency turned out to be, I don't think we should be relying on them as much for argumentation. Frankly, I am genuinely aggravated over how little was learned since 2016.

For example, these Fox News voter analysis results (and the screenshots themselves) are really something. Relatively major consensus on things like climate, renewable energy, healthcare, etc. https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570?s=21 https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/13237520320004505...

tekknik 6y ago
Fox News is considered liberal by most on the right these days. Using it as a poll for where the right stands is irresponsible at best.
- 3131s 6y ago
  Well that was inevitable with the removal of some of their more prominent sexual predators.
  - tekknik 6y ago
    And yet another reason for the division right here.
- hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
  This is kind of hilarious to me. Fox News is unwilling to completely ignore reality and thus it is "liberal" these days.
  - tekknik 6y ago
    More like there’s better. Fox isn’t fair and balanced and never really was and they started getting sensational. The right doesn’t want a soap opera for news. A recent example with when they called AZ by blindly listening to AP when anybody that knows basic math could see a large chunk of votes still remaining. When you prove you can’t be trusted you lose your audience.

tekknik 6y ago

Go look at how polls are extrapolated. Specifically give me the exact formula and raw data so I can confirm it myself, like we do in other such situations. You won’t find it. Stop trusting polls.

crocodiletears 6y ago

I lie to or hang up on pollsters every time they reach out to me. I don't trust them, and I don't know who they contract under. They often ask leading questions, regardless. If I ran into an exit pollster, I would've told them I wrote in Ross Perot. I started doing this a couple years ago, when I was called up, and asked to take a survey. The young woman on the other end was very polite, and the questions at first seemed reasonable. The further I went into the survey, the more nakedly leading its questions became, clearly meant to support Republican talking points. I told her I was done, hung up,and since then I've only given false answers to political survey calls. If my representative wants my opinion, they can host a town hall, or reach out to me directly. I'll send an email or call their office if there's an issue I care about. If our politicians know nothing, and receive bad data, then they'll either cross their fingers and be more straight about their convictions, or be badly disappointed whenever they try to pander.

A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago

Given how flawed the polling for this presidency turned out to be, I don't think we should be relying on them as much for argumentation. Frankly, I am genuinely aggravated over how little was learned since 2016.