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The top H1-B employers are outsourcing onshoring consulting companies who bring foreign employees to the US and typically underpay them. These companies then fa

The top H1-B employers are outsourcing onshoring consulting companies who bring foreign employees to the US and typically underpay them. These companies then farm these people out at their actual value. This policy is put in place specifically to ensure that when a foreign worker is brought to the US that they are paid what they are worth and that they are not used to undercut American labor.

rammy1234 6y ago
But a rule needs to have a second-order thinking. here there is lot of unintended side effects. one such https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-over-new-rules-eligibility-wages-h-1b-visa-holders https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-...
- RhysU 6y ago
  I doubt those effects are unintended.
- uberman 6y ago
  A summary of the changes follows: "H1B applicants will need to be earning a salary equivalent to the 45th percentile of their profession's salary if they're an entry-level worker, rising to 95th percentile for higher-skilled workers. In the past, the boundaries were set at the 17th and 67th percentiles respectively." I work in the Higher Ed space and it is a common practice to use cheap student labor (particularly captive international student labor) J1/F1 holders who are then transferred into OPT for a year and then onto H1 status for an additional six years of servitude/captivity. I want to be clear that I am not opposed to immigration or foreign labor. Rather, I oppose treating these employees as a cheap source of labor. It is unfair to them and deflates pay for all employees. I actually like programs like OPT that provide a path for international students to begin to repay what is often huge debt, particularly when compared to wages in their home countries. They should however be paid fairly. I would like to conclude with this. I have a friend who recently applied for a senior position at a private university (one with a name you would recognize). The positional called for a data scientist with ML and AI experience. I know because they asked me for a reference. They were offered the position but told that the absolute maximum the university would pay was $65k per year as that was what the former employee (a graduate who they transitioned to an H1 visa) was paid. I suspect the Yale case is basically this as well. A university that wants to avoid paying the prevailing wage and has been able to avoid that by exploiting former international graduates. If they feel that either their employee is not a level 4 or that the prevailing wage estimates are wrong they can appeal.
aejnsn 6y ago
This is exactly the intended effect. Cuts the middleman out of what is an incredibly common sweatshop tactic. Everyone thinking the US is overly strict needs to look at how EU countries regard this with their priority principles in residence/work permitting.

rammy1234 6y ago

But a rule needs to have a second-order thinking. here there is lot of unintended side effects. one such https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-over-new-rules-eligibility-wages-h-1b-visa-holders https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-...

RhysU 6y ago
I doubt those effects are unintended.
uberman 6y ago
A summary of the changes follows: "H1B applicants will need to be earning a salary equivalent to the 45th percentile of their profession's salary if they're an entry-level worker, rising to 95th percentile for higher-skilled workers. In the past, the boundaries were set at the 17th and 67th percentiles respectively." I work in the Higher Ed space and it is a common practice to use cheap student labor (particularly captive international student labor) J1/F1 holders who are then transferred into OPT for a year and then onto H1 status for an additional six years of servitude/captivity. I want to be clear that I am not opposed to immigration or foreign labor. Rather, I oppose treating these employees as a cheap source of labor. It is unfair to them and deflates pay for all employees. I actually like programs like OPT that provide a path for international students to begin to repay what is often huge debt, particularly when compared to wages in their home countries. They should however be paid fairly. I would like to conclude with this. I have a friend who recently applied for a senior position at a private university (one with a name you would recognize). The positional called for a data scientist with ML and AI experience. I know because they asked me for a reference. They were offered the position but told that the absolute maximum the university would pay was $65k per year as that was what the former employee (a graduate who they transitioned to an H1 visa) was paid. I suspect the Yale case is basically this as well. A university that wants to avoid paying the prevailing wage and has been able to avoid that by exploiting former international graduates. If they feel that either their employee is not a level 4 or that the prevailing wage estimates are wrong they can appeal.

aejnsn 6y ago

This is exactly the intended effect. Cuts the middleman out of what is an incredibly common sweatshop tactic. Everyone thinking the US is overly strict needs to look at how EU countries regard this with their priority principles in residence/work permitting.