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> releasing all of the cables regardless of whether or not they contain incriminating evidence. Except that's not remotely true. http://www.salon.com/news/opi

• tzs 16y ago
  You are just counting cables released on Wikileaks' site. All of the cables have been given to several newspapers directly by Wikileaks, and have passed on from there to other newspapers.
• killerswan 16y ago
  Every time I think about donating to Wikilieaks, I give to the ACLU [1] and EFF [2] instead. ;D For the sake of the future, fixing the law in the USA _matters_, and I trust them. [1] https://www.eff.org/ https://www.eff.org/ [2] https://www.eff.org/ https://www.eff.org/
  • anonymoushn 16y ago
    I do not expect it is possible to fix the law in the USA under its current political system.
    • rbanffy 16y ago
      If citizens give up, they win.
      • chopsueyar 16y ago
        All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
        • rbanffy 16y ago
          And that's why you'll never see me skipping an election ;-) (of course, this means a lot less in Brazil, because it's a major hassle to do it)
          • burgerbrain 16y ago
            If you actually think that going to elections is "doing something", then they have you right where they want you.
            • rbanffy 16y ago
              If you think skipping one helps, they have you where they want you. From where did you get that voting is the only thing I do?
              • burgerbrain 16y ago
                Choosing to abstain from voting neither helps nor hinders this government. Since we don't have a minimum required turnout, it is an inherently neutral act. On the other hand, choosing to vote does help it by lending it credibility. If you think voting "works" then you are in their fingers. If you abstain from voting, they simply don't give a shit. Stop wasting your time, and do something that will make a difference.
                • rbanffy 16y ago
                  > Stop wasting your time, and do something that will make a difference. Any suggestions? I see your problem appears not to be with the candidates you can vote on themselves, but with the process of electing them by vote. I agree some parts of the system can be broken, but I don't think representative democracies are so bad, specially when compared to the alternatives in current use.
                  • chopsueyar 16y ago
  • grandalf 16y ago
    Those are both good orgs to donate to. However when you consider just how much callous loss of life and suffering is being caused by the stuff that Wikileaks is revealing about the US, it really is enough to give any reasonable person pause.