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Netflix has interactive movies that are like games.

threeseed 6y ago
It is still a movie and so would be regulated under existing movie classification systems. And since movies are over a century old every country has a similar regulatory framework. Most countries do not have an equivalent for apps/games and so it is ultimately left to Apple to regulate.
- sushid 6y ago
  > Most countries do not have an equivalent for apps/games and so it is ultimately left to Apple to regulate. We literally have ESRB that's a whole lot less arbitrary than Apple's review system.
  - threeseed 6y ago
    ESRB isn't for apps and is US only. Hence my point that there isn't a global regulatory framework for apps/games like there is for music/movies.
- ThatPlayer 6y ago
  What regulations are those? Netflix has Minecraft Story Mode now https://www.netflix.com/title/80227995 https://www.netflix.com/title/80227995 . What regulations are being applied, and how are those incompatible with video games? Also aren't movie rating systems like the MPA self-regulated? Not required by law. There's already equivalent systems for video games with PEGI and ESRB.
  - zinekeller 6y ago
    The American MPA is self-regulated (probably simply to put it into legal territory, since legislating it would probably prevent freedom of expression and translates to censorship, especially if the authority is directly government-controlled) but some other systems are legislated (not just in countries you think as opressive, mind you: Britain has an independent organization that rates movies but are approved by the government). Still a bit flawed though: I thought that there is already a ratings board in America for software?
    - ThatPlayer 6y ago
      Yeah. I don't think there's been any authority that Netflix has submitted all their films to, to be on Apple's devices. Why should Microsoft's Game Pass be any different.
  - threeseed 6y ago
    You understand that there is more to the world than the US. Every country has regulations for music/movies/TV. US and a handful of other countries have them for games and I am not aware of any for apps.
    - ThatPlayer 6y ago
      That's why I'm asking what regulations are there? I'm not claiming they don't exist. If something like Minecraft Story Mode is a movie on Netflix, what movie ratings does it have? For example, I can find it on ESRB's website rating, but it's not like it's on MPA's https://www.filmratings.com/ https://www.filmratings.com/ https://www.esrb.org/ratings/34178/Minecraft%3A+Story+Mode+-+A+Telltale+Games+Series/ https://www.esrb.org/ratings/34178/Minecraft%3A+Story+Mode+-... Meanwhile Netflix's own Bandersnatch is not ESRB rated, and isn't too different as a game. Yet Apple has supported both of these perfectly fine regardless of their lack of proper ratings.
hnick 6y ago
Not many, and AFAIK none have in-app purchases that Apple is missing out on. If they do then it's not enough to be worth starting a fight over yet.

It is still a movie and so would be regulated under existing movie classification systems. And since movies are over a century old every country has a similar regulatory framework. Most countries do not have an equivalent for apps/games and so it is ultimately left to Apple to regulate.

sushid 6y ago
> Most countries do not have an equivalent for apps/games and so it is ultimately left to Apple to regulate. We literally have ESRB that's a whole lot less arbitrary than Apple's review system.
- threeseed 6y ago
  ESRB isn't for apps and is US only. Hence my point that there isn't a global regulatory framework for apps/games like there is for music/movies.
ThatPlayer 6y ago
What regulations are those? Netflix has Minecraft Story Mode now https://www.netflix.com/title/80227995 https://www.netflix.com/title/80227995 . What regulations are being applied, and how are those incompatible with video games? Also aren't movie rating systems like the MPA self-regulated? Not required by law. There's already equivalent systems for video games with PEGI and ESRB.
- zinekeller 6y ago
  The American MPA is self-regulated (probably simply to put it into legal territory, since legislating it would probably prevent freedom of expression and translates to censorship, especially if the authority is directly government-controlled) but some other systems are legislated (not just in countries you think as opressive, mind you: Britain has an independent organization that rates movies but are approved by the government). Still a bit flawed though: I thought that there is already a ratings board in America for software?
  - ThatPlayer 6y ago
    Yeah. I don't think there's been any authority that Netflix has submitted all their films to, to be on Apple's devices. Why should Microsoft's Game Pass be any different.
- threeseed 6y ago
  You understand that there is more to the world than the US. Every country has regulations for music/movies/TV. US and a handful of other countries have them for games and I am not aware of any for apps.
  - ThatPlayer 6y ago
    That's why I'm asking what regulations are there? I'm not claiming they don't exist. If something like Minecraft Story Mode is a movie on Netflix, what movie ratings does it have? For example, I can find it on ESRB's website rating, but it's not like it's on MPA's https://www.filmratings.com/ https://www.filmratings.com/ https://www.esrb.org/ratings/34178/Minecraft%3A+Story+Mode+-+A+Telltale+Games+Series/ https://www.esrb.org/ratings/34178/Minecraft%3A+Story+Mode+-... Meanwhile Netflix's own Bandersnatch is not ESRB rated, and isn't too different as a game. Yet Apple has supported both of these perfectly fine regardless of their lack of proper ratings.

hnick 6y ago

Not many, and AFAIK none have in-app purchases that Apple is missing out on. If they do then it's not enough to be worth starting a fight over yet.