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I'm sorry, no you've been hoaxed. We saw the debates and post-Charlottesville terrorist act press conference where he outright refused to condemn white supremac

I'm sorry, no you've been hoaxed. We saw the debates and post-Charlottesville terrorist act press conference where he outright refused to condemn white supremacy. It also doesn't matter if you threaten to kill me once, then say you didn't 38 times, I still won't believe you, I just know you're a lying.

Consultant32452 6y ago
If you believe he failed to condemn white supremacy in the post Charlottesville press conference, then you clearly didn't watch it. That finepeople.org link has the unedited clip where he says they should be condemned totally. His worst response on this issue was the debates where he said "sure" to whether he'd condemn white supremacy. And then he was asked about the Proud Boys which are a multi racial group with a black leader.
- question000 6y ago
  I did watch it. He didn't. There were audible gasps in the room when he refused. Literally everyone I know who saw it had the same reaction. I'm not going to stand for this revisionist history.
  - Consultant32452 6y ago
    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53858940 https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53858940 >According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say - when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally - "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."
    - question000 6y ago
      How about you link to the actual transcript https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-infrastructure/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-pres... Which clearly has nothing to do with the actual issue being discussed. Trump just suddenly throws this in that line at a totally unrelated contractor permitting press conference for one sentence. It's really crazy, if Trump says one thing to the people of Charlottesville and a totally contradictory thing later in the most obscure circumstance, are we to give him the benefit of the doubt? I don't, there is no doubt.
      - Consultant32452 6y ago
        I see, in a later press conference, after he'd given a full throated condemnation of white supremacy, someone asked him about his fine people comment and he reaffirms his belief that there were people supporting the statue. Again, something that could be false. The idea that literally dozens of times he directly and clearly denounced white white supremacy, that he practically couldn't shut up for four years about all the great things he was doing for black people, that he passed the criminal justice reform bill, that he funded historically black colleges more than any administration in history, that he created opportunity zones to bring investment into black communities... He's going around the country bragging about these things constantly, but his off the cuff response in a press conference where he reaffirms his belief that there were some non-racist statue supporters... That's when the real truth came out, that was his big signal to the white supremacists that he was on their side in spite of significant policies and repeatedly proclaiming the opposite. That's a wild belief.
        question000 6y ago
        Trump didn't create "opportunity zones" for black people. He didn't fund historically black colleges. He didn't pass a crime reform bill. He didn't denounce white supremacy. He just lied about these things and you believe him. Where are these opportunity zones? Where are these educational opportunities, where was the crime reform, a fantasy. You are taking a known lier at face value. Why? I can just easily dismiss anything you say because Trump accomplished nothing all empty words.
mistermann 6y ago
This sense of ESP and omniscience you have is an illusory side effect of human consciousness. Actual reality consists of all things that occur, but your virtual representation of it is ultimately based on alterations to it as you consume it, and in post processing, and other things that are not well understood.

Consultant32452 6y ago

If you believe he failed to condemn white supremacy in the post Charlottesville press conference, then you clearly didn't watch it. That finepeople.org link has the unedited clip where he says they should be condemned totally. His worst response on this issue was the debates where he said "sure" to whether he'd condemn white supremacy. And then he was asked about the Proud Boys which are a multi racial group with a black leader.

question000 6y ago
I did watch it. He didn't. There were audible gasps in the room when he refused. Literally everyone I know who saw it had the same reaction. I'm not going to stand for this revisionist history.
- Consultant32452 6y ago
  https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53858940 https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53858940 >According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say - when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally - "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."
  - question000 6y ago
    How about you link to the actual transcript https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-infrastructure/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-pres... Which clearly has nothing to do with the actual issue being discussed. Trump just suddenly throws this in that line at a totally unrelated contractor permitting press conference for one sentence. It's really crazy, if Trump says one thing to the people of Charlottesville and a totally contradictory thing later in the most obscure circumstance, are we to give him the benefit of the doubt? I don't, there is no doubt.
    - Consultant32452 6y ago
      I see, in a later press conference, after he'd given a full throated condemnation of white supremacy, someone asked him about his fine people comment and he reaffirms his belief that there were people supporting the statue. Again, something that could be false. The idea that literally dozens of times he directly and clearly denounced white white supremacy, that he practically couldn't shut up for four years about all the great things he was doing for black people, that he passed the criminal justice reform bill, that he funded historically black colleges more than any administration in history, that he created opportunity zones to bring investment into black communities... He's going around the country bragging about these things constantly, but his off the cuff response in a press conference where he reaffirms his belief that there were some non-racist statue supporters... That's when the real truth came out, that was his big signal to the white supremacists that he was on their side in spite of significant policies and repeatedly proclaiming the opposite. That's a wild belief.
      - question000 6y ago
        Trump didn't create "opportunity zones" for black people. He didn't fund historically black colleges. He didn't pass a crime reform bill. He didn't denounce white supremacy. He just lied about these things and you believe him. Where are these opportunity zones? Where are these educational opportunities, where was the crime reform, a fantasy. You are taking a known lier at face value. Why? I can just easily dismiss anything you say because Trump accomplished nothing all empty words.

mistermann 6y ago

This sense of ESP and omniscience you have is an illusory side effect of human consciousness. Actual reality consists of all things that occur, but your virtual representation of it is ultimately based on alterations to it as you consume it, and in post processing, and other things that are not well understood.