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> nobody I have talked to seriously voted for Joe Biden on his own merits. Okay, I did, so you can't say that anymore. I didn't vote for him in the primary, bu

by js2 6y ago

> nobody I have talked to seriously voted for Joe Biden on his own merits. Okay, I did, so you can't say that anymore. I didn't vote for him in the primary, but I voted for him in the general. There's good stuff here: https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/ https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/ He's a centrist. I expect him to be right in the middle of the Democratic party. It's not as bold as I would like in some places and has things I don't like in others, but it's progress. It's substantive policy proposals to try to make headway on climate change, healthcare, covid19, jobs, and on and on.

rytor718 6y ago
Agree with you, but completely understand the original comment. Its true that, similar to previous elections, people aren't voting For. They're voting against. That said, the reason Biden, despite his substantive proposals, isn't well-liked by Dems is because there seems to be broad disappointment with the Democratic party's failure to nominate and elect someone who is representative of the future we all want. There's a comment in this thread to the tune of "why are only 70 year old men running and winning the presidency in the USA" today. Indeed -- there's so much political failure in our government across the board that it's hard to believe in Biden and the party.
- js2 6y ago
  I volunteered as a Democratic poll greeter on Election Day with two women, a woman from Cincinnati who works for the NC government as an economist and an African American woman from New Jersey retired from Johnson and Johnson so she could raise her son who had a hearing disability and “blacks kids with disabilities don’t get the help they need in public schools.” They both voted for Biden in the primary. I asked them why. Both said “because I thought he had the best chance to win the general.” The Democrats keep picking centrists because we’re a centrist country, I guess. I was going to vote for Buttigieg in the primary and voted Warren after he dropped out, but that was a symbolic vote since Biden had already locked it up. I’ve recently shared my thoughts on how I think we got here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25004795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25004795

by js2 6y ago

rytor718 6y ago

Agree with you, but completely understand the original comment. Its true that, similar to previous elections, people aren't voting For. They're voting against. That said, the reason Biden, despite his substantive proposals, isn't well-liked by Dems is because there seems to be broad disappointment with the Democratic party's failure to nominate and elect someone who is representative of the future we all want. There's a comment in this thread to the tune of "why are only 70 year old men running and winning the presidency in the USA" today. Indeed -- there's so much political failure in our government across the board that it's hard to believe in Biden and the party.

js2 6y ago
I volunteered as a Democratic poll greeter on Election Day with two women, a woman from Cincinnati who works for the NC government as an economist and an African American woman from New Jersey retired from Johnson and Johnson so she could raise her son who had a hearing disability and “blacks kids with disabilities don’t get the help they need in public schools.” They both voted for Biden in the primary. I asked them why. Both said “because I thought he had the best chance to win the general.” The Democrats keep picking centrists because we’re a centrist country, I guess. I was going to vote for Buttigieg in the primary and voted Warren after he dropped out, but that was a symbolic vote since Biden had already locked it up. I’ve recently shared my thoughts on how I think we got here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25004795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25004795