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Nah. We’re actually at an inflection point where before white men were the elite, no question, that was what it took to get in the door outside a few congressi
by jmull 6y ago
Nah.
We’re actually at an inflection point where before white men were the elite, no question, that was what it took to get in the door outside a few congressional districts.
Now it’s still mostly that but it takes more, and due to demographic shifts it will be that less and less. The right — belatedly (far too little far too late, and quite awkwardly) — has already started outreach to Latino and black communities. They will continue but it will take a while (what an embarrassment for the party of Lincoln. FFS.).
Obama was a lighting strike to those who assumed it would always be the old way, and Trump was the response to Obama.
Fortunately, that failed (unfortunately it took hundreds of thousands of dead Americans to convince enough Michiganders, Wisconsinites, Pennsylvanians (I’m sure about “Michiganders”, being one myself, no idea on the others) but at least it happened.)
The left, quite cleverly, responded with Biden, an old white guy in the classic mold. Literally: nothing to fear here, white peeps... but with Kamala as VP — a powerless position yet a powerful symbol (especially as the VP of a VP cum President).
So It’s the changing of the guard. Republicans can no longer simply ignore black and brown people (at best) or use them as bugaboos (and then Democrats won’t be able to simply count on their votes by not actively being racist). Once the powerful engage those groups they’ll find them not to be uniform, and (hopefully) that will lead to meaningful, nuanced, deep engagement... if that happens, there will no longer be such a thing as the “black vote”. (This is further along with Latinos, where some groups aren’t too overwhelmingly for one party or the other).
So...
Not really an existential crisis, at least not to my mind. It’s real progress. We can no longer force certain groups into blocks based on whether we actively believe they should be subjugated or just kinda ignore them.
Hallelujah.
- gigatexal 6y agoThis makes sense to me. Then the transition of power or the changing demographics you speak of will disenfranchise those once in power and that could lead to violence (think white heavily-armed men intimidating or worse those they disagree with). This is what I fear as well.
- Kephael 6y agoYes, the fact that this is happening due to demographics and not positions "evolving" is obvious. Many recognize immigration as a tool to help Leftist parties all throughout the Western world. Eventually those who have been disenfranchised and blamed for all the ills have had enough it will certainly come to violence. Reactionaries really do not have to engage in "Democracy", democracy certainly does not last forever.
- jmull 6y ago> white heavily-armed men intimidating or worse Yes, BUT: this has already peaked. A long time ago. This started big a while ago and has had ever-weakening aftershocks... Oklahoma City, Waco, Charlottesville. Now we’re at the stage of a flash Trump caravan maybe provoking a fender-bender and baseless lawsuits from a couple of NY goons. It’s done. The quicker people realize this the better. (They won’t realize it quickly, unfortunately. The champions of “conservative” right now are a porno-appearing, self-bragging pussy-grabber, and a bizarrely diminished former NY mayor who now unsuccessfully promotes conspiracy theories and is a punchline in a Borat movie.)
- Kephael 6y agoWhy has this peaked? If you don't think there is a far-right that is suppressed, angrily stewing, and heavily armed you are living in a fantasy world. The kindling is all there, just because they have been deplatformed from mainstream social media does not mean they do not exist.