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For anyone who is looking for an alternative, take a look at https://linear.app https://linear.app - I've used it a bunch for side projects and it's snappy and

For anyone who is looking for an alternative, take a look at https://linear.app https://linear.app - I've used it a bunch for side projects and it's snappy and beautiful. I know the founder from our YC batch back in the day, and if anyone is going to create a really thoughtful JIRA replacement, it's these guys. p.s. It's fascinating how long products like Jira end up existing through sheer market penetration. I don't know a single developer who doesn't passionately hate Jira, and yet it is somehow the "standard."

harikb 6y ago
Developers hate it, sure. But program and project managers love it for the perceived ability to wrangle and manage the herd
jhawk28 6y ago
It doesn't look like linear is available for local server install.
ivan_gammel 6y ago
I know plenty of developers who like JIRA and not just developers: we quickly scaled adoption of JIRA to a company-wide setup, used by literally every department in our company for a variety of different processes. From this perspective Linear is not a JIRA replacement. It is a small tool for tracking software projects, but that’s it. JIRA is much more than that.
- lucb1e 6y ago
  Idk why my company chose it but it's indeed bearable if you just talk to the API and make nice overviews with `jq` instead of trying to use the web interface which will trip you up eight ways from Sunday. I guess I don't hate jira after scripting against it; it's definitely more scriptable than a lot of alternatives.
_a1_ 6y ago
It's like deadlines. Developers hate deadlines, but one thing that developers hate more is the lack of them.
lucb1e 6y ago
> Jira on-prem installs will become end of life Top comment: > Here's this great alternative from a buddy of mine that can't do on-prem in the first place I'm confused. Do people like this product better for other reasons, or is the issue that this isn't disclosed in the comment?
ylk 6y ago
As jhawk28 points out this is not actually an alternative to an on premise product, so I don't get why you'd promote it in a thread that's specifically about an on premises product being EOL. It might be an alternative to Jira Cloud, which is cool and all, but your comment is just completely misleading.
lolspongo 6y ago
The recent batch of Jira clones all seem to be missing a feature that was one of the few things that made me choose Jira in the first place: BPM style workflows with phase-specific data capture and actions / transitions. Trello / Kanban / Agile style 'project management', gnatt / burndown charts and velocity etc. are nice for day to day views for people working at the coal-face and the never-ending war of attrition. But a lot of the competing tools are not as elegant when it comes to modeling interlinked cross-team processes end-to-end.
- mcsoft 6y ago
  You may wish to check https://pyrus.com https://pyrus.com - they are focused on no-code end-to-end processes with very flexible (and non-bloated) workflow setup, open API, and neat mobile apps (which is a must have feature for getting timely approvals from C-level guys). (Full disc: I'm insider)
baud147258 6y ago
> I don't know a single developer who doesn't passionately hate Jira Well, as long as the perf aren't too bad (which seems to depends on the number of concurrent users), I don't mind Jira and neither the rest of my team, it's a tool that more or less does its job in bug and task tracking. Though we were to customize our workflow/fields to do what we want.
- NickNameNick 6y ago
  It doesn't allow you to track % complete, the time tracking plugin is actively awful, the VCS integration is mediocre when it works at all. The UI actively discourages reporters from filling in the description field But promotes a million other fields that are just noise... I could go on...
  - baud147258 6y ago
    > The UI actively discourages reporters from filling in the description field But promotes a million other fields that screen should be customisable

harikb 6y ago

Developers hate it, sure. But program and project managers love it for the perceived ability to wrangle and manage the herd

jhawk28 6y ago

It doesn't look like linear is available for local server install.

ivan_gammel 6y ago

I know plenty of developers who like JIRA and not just developers: we quickly scaled adoption of JIRA to a company-wide setup, used by literally every department in our company for a variety of different processes. From this perspective Linear is not a JIRA replacement. It is a small tool for tracking software projects, but that’s it. JIRA is much more than that.

lucb1e 6y ago
Idk why my company chose it but it's indeed bearable if you just talk to the API and make nice overviews with `jq` instead of trying to use the web interface which will trip you up eight ways from Sunday. I guess I don't hate jira after scripting against it; it's definitely more scriptable than a lot of alternatives.

_a1_ 6y ago

It's like deadlines. Developers hate deadlines, but one thing that developers hate more is the lack of them.

lucb1e 6y ago

> Jira on-prem installs will become end of life Top comment: > Here's this great alternative from a buddy of mine that can't do on-prem in the first place I'm confused. Do people like this product better for other reasons, or is the issue that this isn't disclosed in the comment?

ylk 6y ago

As jhawk28 points out this is not actually an alternative to an on premise product, so I don't get why you'd promote it in a thread that's specifically about an on premises product being EOL. It might be an alternative to Jira Cloud, which is cool and all, but your comment is just completely misleading.

lolspongo 6y ago

The recent batch of Jira clones all seem to be missing a feature that was one of the few things that made me choose Jira in the first place: BPM style workflows with phase-specific data capture and actions / transitions. Trello / Kanban / Agile style 'project management', gnatt / burndown charts and velocity etc. are nice for day to day views for people working at the coal-face and the never-ending war of attrition. But a lot of the competing tools are not as elegant when it comes to modeling interlinked cross-team processes end-to-end.

mcsoft 6y ago
You may wish to check https://pyrus.com https://pyrus.com - they are focused on no-code end-to-end processes with very flexible (and non-bloated) workflow setup, open API, and neat mobile apps (which is a must have feature for getting timely approvals from C-level guys). (Full disc: I'm insider)

baud147258 6y ago

> I don't know a single developer who doesn't passionately hate Jira Well, as long as the perf aren't too bad (which seems to depends on the number of concurrent users), I don't mind Jira and neither the rest of my team, it's a tool that more or less does its job in bug and task tracking. Though we were to customize our workflow/fields to do what we want.

NickNameNick 6y ago
It doesn't allow you to track % complete, the time tracking plugin is actively awful, the VCS integration is mediocre when it works at all. The UI actively discourages reporters from filling in the description field But promotes a million other fields that are just noise... I could go on...
- baud147258 6y ago
  > The UI actively discourages reporters from filling in the description field But promotes a million other fields that screen should be customisable