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Or the employee of a sprawling corporation with a family to feed, a mortgage to pay, a family health plan to pay, college and university for their children to p

by eecc 6y ago

Or the employee of a sprawling corporation with a family to feed, a mortgage to pay, a family health plan to pay, college and university for their children to pay. Tell me someone that is more beholden to their master than these modern peasants. Yet their daily delusion is to be as free as Bezos could dream of.

arkis22 6y ago
lol what you are describing is responsibility. not slavery. yes, it is a responsibility to have a house for your family, to keep food on the table, and to work for their education. if you don't provide those things and rely on the government to provide them, what good are you? why bother to work? you are a slave. or better stated you're a willing sacrifice. to your body and to the people you love. deal with it or rely on charity. life isnt free. but it seems like you think union members have a life free of these ignorant and unimportant realities. not many public companies ask for a 35 year work tenure and your nonstop political loyalty.
- eecc 6y ago
  That's your problem there, the patronizing "life's a bitch now get back to work". Sure it's difficult and it takes effort and good will. But damn dude, I never said one should have all for free - that's a childish simplification. I'm arguing nobody deserves to live under the Damocles' sword of having their life thrown under the bus for a mishap, or an accident. We have enough resources to do without homo homini lupus. enough
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  - arkis22 6y ago
    I described the life experience of caring for the people you love as a good thing. you described it as "bitch now get back to work" we aren't arguing about the possibility of insurance ruining your bank account. as if the childish simplification isn't that when you're a union you're not beholden to some greater master.
    - eecc 6y ago
      We’re talking past each other so badly it hurts...
      - arkis22 6y ago
        I've engaged with you on numerous points. you've ignored them all, and have never offered an alternative logical viewpoint. you're talking past me, and almost bragging that I have asked you questions you're ignoring.
arkis22 6y ago
housing, education, and healthcare were cheap until the federal government got involved. you can make an exception for healthcare because of tech improvements, but the others are true.

by eecc 6y ago

arkis22 6y ago

lol what you are describing is responsibility. not slavery. yes, it is a responsibility to have a house for your family, to keep food on the table, and to work for their education. if you don't provide those things and rely on the government to provide them, what good are you? why bother to work? you are a slave. or better stated you're a willing sacrifice. to your body and to the people you love. deal with it or rely on charity. life isnt free. but it seems like you think union members have a life free of these ignorant and unimportant realities. not many public companies ask for a 35 year work tenure and your nonstop political loyalty.

eecc 6y ago
That's your problem there, the patronizing "life's a bitch now get back to work". Sure it's difficult and it takes effort and good will. But damn dude, I never said one should have all for free - that's a childish simplification. I'm arguing nobody deserves to live under the Damocles' sword of having their life thrown under the bus for a mishap, or an accident. We have enough resources to do without homo homini lupus. enough
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- arkis22 6y ago
  I described the life experience of caring for the people you love as a good thing. you described it as "bitch now get back to work" we aren't arguing about the possibility of insurance ruining your bank account. as if the childish simplification isn't that when you're a union you're not beholden to some greater master.
  - eecc 6y ago
    We’re talking past each other so badly it hurts...
    - arkis22 6y ago
      I've engaged with you on numerous points. you've ignored them all, and have never offered an alternative logical viewpoint. you're talking past me, and almost bragging that I have asked you questions you're ignoring.

arkis22 6y ago

housing, education, and healthcare were cheap until the federal government got involved. you can make an exception for healthcare because of tech improvements, but the others are true.