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I absolutely agree with you and I think we've gotten ourselves into a state where the "fix" (whatever it may be) will be so unpalatable to either party or to an
by bane 6y ago
I absolutely agree with you and I think we've gotten ourselves into a state where the "fix" (whatever it may be) will be so unpalatable to either party or to anybody who wants to survive in a political environment that it'll be impossible to implement.
For example, want to bring manufacturing jobs back?
1. Implement trade-protectionist tariffs and import restrictions.
2. Unionize rural workforces to make the pay and work conditions attractive.
3. Offer massive tax incentives to build manufacturing centers in rural states.
4. Reinstitute a manufacturing oriented education system that outputs ready-to-work trained trade employees.
The parties are too far apart now to be able to put in place something like this.
- echelon 6y agoBuild strong international relationships. Open the gates for immigration. Work with allies to impose extreme tariffs on China. Build manufacturing in India, Mexico, Vietnam, and Africa. Own the shipping. Offer US statehood to Taiwan and keep the South China Sea open to all US Allies. Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc.
- bane 6y agoCongratulations, you just proposed the exact opposite.
- echelon 6y agoI don't think your plan works. US manufacturing is too expensive without extensive automation. And automation won't feed workers. We need to protect our lead in tech and information and attack China's chances of leapfrogging us. Protect our industries, protect democracy. Build up our allies. Build a stronger world. The risk is that China becomes better than us at everything we do. Then what do we have? Being protectionist is anti-growth. Industry and innovation shut down. A new cold war is coming. The sooner we get ahead of it, the better prepared we'll be. The future is knowledge work. Manufacturing domestically is regressive. We need to put the supply chain in the hands of our developing allies. We shouldn't want to train anyone to do menial jobs anyway. We're about to enter an era where we'll have plenty of creative, knowledge jobs for everyone.
- bane 6y agoBut you still haven't brought manufacturing jobs back.
- echelon 6y agoThey're gone and they're not coming back. We don't want them back. These are repetitive, menial jobs that no human should have to do. The only way we want them back is if they're fully automated. We need to protect and expand knowledge work.
- bane 6y agoand congratulations you've also missed the point of this thread.
- odessacubbage 6y agoknowledge work isn't gonna stop midwesterners and coal miners from od'ing on heroin.
- danans 6y ago2-4 would have a plurality of support in the country, And with that, bipartisan support. They can also be done without isolationism, but probably not without redistributing the wealth that has concentrated in the hands of the 0.1% over decades (under both parties) back into the general population.
- bane 6y ago#2 would never receive Republican party support.