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Whatever his style, Trump didn't start any wars during his term. Lets see if Biden will do as well.

by MichaelMoser123 6y ago

jonwinstanley 6y ago
Pushed the US closer to civil war though. Isn’t that worse?
- gjs278 6y ago
  lol no because there isn’t going to be a civil war
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  how?
  - jonwinstanley 6y ago
    Lots of ways
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  Some would say its better. I guess it depends on your perspective.
- rtx 6y ago
  No brown people are very thankful.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- odiroot 6y ago
  I had an impression this strong division already started during Obama presidency. Probably in the aftermath of 2008 crisis.
  - mmastrac 6y ago
    Ironically Trump was one of the major pushers of the birther story.
  - InitialLastName 6y ago
    This. The 2008 collapse converted large populations of young, rural and urban middle-class people into wage slaves, while both the Bush and Obama administrations printed money to prop up the financial institutions whose behavior caused the collapse. This propped up the stock market nicely, which kept retireees happy, but inflated away any assets and wage growth younger people might have seen. The real trick, though, was the MSM and social media using bubbles and doubletalk to convince those angry un-/under-employed urban and rural folks that they should blame each other. From that, you got the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street and (the angry seeds of) the alt-right and the populist left.
throwaway6734 6y ago
The trade war?
ummonk 6y ago
I mean we were somewhat fortunate Iran's missile strike didn't cause any deaths.
lghh 6y ago
The only reason is because we are politically smart enough not to call them "wars" any more. He's personally responsible for the wholesale slaughter of people in Yemen - something Biden said he'd put an end to.
- Helloworldboy 6y ago
  As Obama’s vice president he’s responsible for more deaths and warmongering that donald trump. The Obama administration was blowing up wedding parties weekly with drone strikes
- Beached 6y ago
  it isn't really politics though. the term war has legal meaning that will invoke actions and rulings from treatied allies and the UN. if you call it a war, the world gets involved, if you call it a strategic campaign, every gets the option to turn. their heads and not get involved if they so choose
  - lghh 6y ago
    That sounds precisely like politics.
  - dodobirdlord 6y ago
    More importantly, since we’re talking about the United States, the President can’t actually start wars. Congress declares war. So mincing words about whether the President has technically started a “war” is vacuous. No President ever has. Given that context it’s easy to understand that people using the term War in the modern day to discuss the actions of a US President are not referring to the technical meaning of the term.
- amadeuspagel 6y ago
  The Saudi War on Yemen started in 2015, before Trump was even elected. How is he responsible for it?
  - rrss 6y ago

Whatever his style, Trump didn't start any wars during his term. Lets see if Biden will do as well.

jonwinstanley 6y ago

Pushed the US closer to civil war though. Isn’t that worse?

gjs278 6y ago
lol no because there isn’t going to be a civil war
jelliclesfarm 6y ago
how?
- jonwinstanley 6y ago
  Lots of ways
chordalkeyboard 6y ago
Some would say its better. I guess it depends on your perspective.
rtx 6y ago
No brown people are very thankful.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
odiroot 6y ago
I had an impression this strong division already started during Obama presidency. Probably in the aftermath of 2008 crisis.
- mmastrac 6y ago
  Ironically Trump was one of the major pushers of the birther story.
- InitialLastName 6y ago
  This. The 2008 collapse converted large populations of young, rural and urban middle-class people into wage slaves, while both the Bush and Obama administrations printed money to prop up the financial institutions whose behavior caused the collapse. This propped up the stock market nicely, which kept retireees happy, but inflated away any assets and wage growth younger people might have seen. The real trick, though, was the MSM and social media using bubbles and doubletalk to convince those angry un-/under-employed urban and rural folks that they should blame each other. From that, you got the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street and (the angry seeds of) the alt-right and the populist left.

throwaway6734 6y ago

The trade war?

ummonk 6y ago

I mean we were somewhat fortunate Iran's missile strike didn't cause any deaths.

lghh 6y ago

The only reason is because we are politically smart enough not to call them "wars" any more. He's personally responsible for the wholesale slaughter of people in Yemen - something Biden said he'd put an end to.

Helloworldboy 6y ago
As Obama’s vice president he’s responsible for more deaths and warmongering that donald trump. The Obama administration was blowing up wedding parties weekly with drone strikes
Beached 6y ago
it isn't really politics though. the term war has legal meaning that will invoke actions and rulings from treatied allies and the UN. if you call it a war, the world gets involved, if you call it a strategic campaign, every gets the option to turn. their heads and not get involved if they so choose
- lghh 6y ago
  That sounds precisely like politics.
- dodobirdlord 6y ago
  More importantly, since we’re talking about the United States, the President can’t actually start wars. Congress declares war. So mincing words about whether the President has technically started a “war” is vacuous. No President ever has. Given that context it’s easy to understand that people using the term War in the modern day to discuss the actions of a US President are not referring to the technical meaning of the term.
amadeuspagel 6y ago
The Saudi War on Yemen started in 2015, before Trump was even elected. How is he responsible for it?
- rrss 6y ago