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Well they’re going to try to challenge lots of mail-in ballots that were either processed without poll watchers being able to see the signatures, or allegedly b

Well they’re going to try to challenge lots of mail-in ballots that were either processed without poll watchers being able to see the signatures, or allegedly backdated by USPS, for a start. The first suit will be filed on Monday according to Giuliani. We’ll see how far it goes, but should be fun. This is just announced today so I’m not sure how “experts” could have weighed in already, whatever that means.

dlp211 6y ago
They're going to get figuratively laughed out of court like have been so far. The handful of cases they have won are so non-controversial, they could have been equally brought by the Biden campaign, eg: observer distance in PA. These aren't serious people. They never have been, they never will be.
- guscost 6y ago
  Ok, that’s one prediction. > These aren’t serious people. They never have been, they never will be. Well, Giuliani prosecuted the NY mafia and won, so part of this statement is a little far fetched.
  - dlp211 6y ago
    Yes, at one time Giuliani did good things. That was over 25 years ago. Giuliani is nothing more than a muckraker for Trump nowadays. And yes that is a prediction. But it is an informed prediction. It is informed by the fact that so far, every case has been tossed for lack of evidence. I can go around making false assertions and filing false lawsuits all day too, it doesn't mean that anyone should take them seriously, and no one would. The only reason that we give these assertions oxygen is out of deference to the power these people hold.
  - dlp211 6y ago
    Follow Up: The NY Post editorial board, one of the few boards that endorsed Trump has offered the following advice: "Get Rudy Giuliani off TV." Even the Post doesn't give Giuliani credence. Trump will get recounts, none of them will move the numbers in a meaningful way, just like every other recount in the history of Presidential recounts.
    - guscost 6y ago
      Here are a few other (much larger) media operations tacitly or overtly endorsing a fair hearing for this challenge: - Joe Rogan (>10 million listeners) - Rush Limbaugh (15 million per week) - Crowder (8 million on election night) - No Agenda (nobody, this is a joke) The Post has a circulation of ~250k.
um_ya 6y ago
There are also reports of thousands of mail in ballots from dead people. The data is provided in the description for you to check yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK21F1b5ihc&feature=youtu.be&t=107 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK21F1b5ihc&feature=youtu.be...
- srtjstjsj 6y ago
  Fleccas is going to need to find *someone" who doesn't sell "bill+Hillary clinton pointing guns" t-shirts to independently check his work before he deserves anyone's attention.
  - um_ya 6y ago
    The data was provided in the description of the video. You can check it yourself. List of names: https://controlc.com/c17e91ba https://controlc.com/c17e91ba Voter website: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index
    - fl0wenol 6y ago
      Where is the information to corroborate these people are dead and not just old?
      - Jayschwa 6y ago
        The oldest known American was born in 1905. This list seems hit-or-miss, but I spot checked a few entries with birth years before that (excluding Jan 1900 since that might be used as NULL) and it showed them as having voted via absentee ballot. I don't know if the number is large enough to make any meaningful difference, but it's not a good look.
        election_throw 6y ago
        At least one sounds like clerical error - son's vote (same name) recorded under father's info: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/william-bradley-voted-dead/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/william-bradley-voted-dead...

dlp211 6y ago

They're going to get figuratively laughed out of court like have been so far. The handful of cases they have won are so non-controversial, they could have been equally brought by the Biden campaign, eg: observer distance in PA. These aren't serious people. They never have been, they never will be.

guscost 6y ago
Ok, that’s one prediction. > These aren’t serious people. They never have been, they never will be. Well, Giuliani prosecuted the NY mafia and won, so part of this statement is a little far fetched.
- dlp211 6y ago
  Yes, at one time Giuliani did good things. That was over 25 years ago. Giuliani is nothing more than a muckraker for Trump nowadays. And yes that is a prediction. But it is an informed prediction. It is informed by the fact that so far, every case has been tossed for lack of evidence. I can go around making false assertions and filing false lawsuits all day too, it doesn't mean that anyone should take them seriously, and no one would. The only reason that we give these assertions oxygen is out of deference to the power these people hold.
- dlp211 6y ago
  Follow Up: The NY Post editorial board, one of the few boards that endorsed Trump has offered the following advice: "Get Rudy Giuliani off TV." Even the Post doesn't give Giuliani credence. Trump will get recounts, none of them will move the numbers in a meaningful way, just like every other recount in the history of Presidential recounts.
  - guscost 6y ago
    Here are a few other (much larger) media operations tacitly or overtly endorsing a fair hearing for this challenge: - Joe Rogan (>10 million listeners) - Rush Limbaugh (15 million per week) - Crowder (8 million on election night) - No Agenda (nobody, this is a joke) The Post has a circulation of ~250k.

um_ya 6y ago

There are also reports of thousands of mail in ballots from dead people. The data is provided in the description for you to check yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK21F1b5ihc&feature=youtu.be&t=107 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK21F1b5ihc&feature=youtu.be...

srtjstjsj 6y ago
Fleccas is going to need to find *someone" who doesn't sell "bill+Hillary clinton pointing guns" t-shirts to independently check his work before he deserves anyone's attention.
- um_ya 6y ago
  The data was provided in the description of the video. You can check it yourself. List of names: https://controlc.com/c17e91ba https://controlc.com/c17e91ba Voter website: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index
  - fl0wenol 6y ago
    Where is the information to corroborate these people are dead and not just old?
    - Jayschwa 6y ago
      The oldest known American was born in 1905. This list seems hit-or-miss, but I spot checked a few entries with birth years before that (excluding Jan 1900 since that might be used as NULL) and it showed them as having voted via absentee ballot. I don't know if the number is large enough to make any meaningful difference, but it's not a good look.
      - election_throw 6y ago
        At least one sounds like clerical error - son's vote (same name) recorded under father's info: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/william-bradley-voted-dead/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/william-bradley-voted-dead...