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I hope the runoffs in Georgia swing blue. A Republican controlled Senate will stall our recovery from trump for at least a couple more years.

gruez 6y ago
Isn't that almost impossible? AFAIK the votes were approximately split 3 ways across 2 republicans and 1 democrat. That's the only reason why the democratic candidate was even ahead.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  No, there are 2 senate races, and each had a Republican and a Democrat as top two vote-getters. In one race, the Republican came on top and in the other the Democrat did, but neither winner reached the 50% threshold required by state law, so both races are going to runoff. In the race the Democrat was leading, the Republican candidate had a history of minor (local) scandals, and only held the seat because she was appointed to it.
- akiselev 6y ago
  It's almost impossible for another reason: Dem turnout in runoff elections falls off precipitously.
  - mmaurizi 6y ago
    Well that was the case pre-2016 election. 2017-2020 Democrats did very well in special elections. It remains to be seen what happens to democratic enthusiasm under a Biden presidency.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
    Don't underestimate Stacey Abrams. https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/ https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/
    - prepend 6y ago
      I don’t think Stacey Abrams has a great record at winning elections in Georgia. Do you think she’ll be helpful in these runoffs?
      - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
        She doesn't need to get elected to help the movements. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/stacey-abrams-georgia-voter-suppression-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/stacey-abrams-georgia-vote...
- rrss 6y ago
  In the special election, the top 3 candidates (two republicans and one democrat) got ~80% of the vote. There were a lot of other democratic candidates that got a total of ~15% of the vote, so it's plausible that Warnock (the democratic candidate in the runoff) could win.
vanattab 6y ago
As a former republican who is afraid of the direction of political dialog in this country. This is the best outcome I could have hoped for. In my option the dismal showing for dems in the congress and many state legislatures and governors and trumps loss is a repudiation for the toxic rhetoric from both groups.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  >As a former republican who is afraid of the direction of political dialog in this country. Specifically what are you afraid of? >In my option the dismal showing for dems in the congress and many state legislatures and governors and trumps loss is a repudiation for the toxic rhetoric from both groups. Can you give me some examples of the toxic rhetoric you see from congressional democrats?
  - ufmace 6y ago
    Here's a congressional democrat calling for lists to be drawn up of those who worked with Trump. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 What do you think they intend to do with those lists?
    - delecti 6y ago
      You're spinning what is essentially "screenshotting tweets" to sound a lot more nefarious than it is. It seems pretty clear to me that she's talking about accountability. It's not about hunting down poor innocent conservatives in their homes, it's making sure that people involved in the administration can't distance themselves from their actions.
    - krapp 6y ago
      Meanwhile, armed mobs of Trump supporters are actually inciting violence, harassing people and plotting kidnappings. What do you think they intend to do with those guns?
      - 6y ago
highmastdon 6y ago
Which part needs recovery? The pandemic, of course, but if it were up to democrats the shops would’ve been closed and businesses bankrupt more than by trying to keep stuff open. Minimum wages have increased, stock market is doing fine, unemployment rate up to SARS-CoV-2 has been lowest, under Obama the national debt grew by 25 (debt-to-gdp) from 40-65 in his first 3 years (!) where Trump only 3 (76-79), people on food stamps lowered drastically in his 3rd year... if you mean that the democrats need to recover from prosperous years by riuning everything, you got it right...

gruez 6y ago

Isn't that almost impossible? AFAIK the votes were approximately split 3 ways across 2 republicans and 1 democrat. That's the only reason why the democratic candidate was even ahead.

gamblor956 6y ago
No, there are 2 senate races, and each had a Republican and a Democrat as top two vote-getters. In one race, the Republican came on top and in the other the Democrat did, but neither winner reached the 50% threshold required by state law, so both races are going to runoff. In the race the Democrat was leading, the Republican candidate had a history of minor (local) scandals, and only held the seat because she was appointed to it.
akiselev 6y ago
It's almost impossible for another reason: Dem turnout in runoff elections falls off precipitously.
- mmaurizi 6y ago
  Well that was the case pre-2016 election. 2017-2020 Democrats did very well in special elections. It remains to be seen what happens to democratic enthusiasm under a Biden presidency.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  Don't underestimate Stacey Abrams. https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/ https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/
  - prepend 6y ago
    I don’t think Stacey Abrams has a great record at winning elections in Georgia. Do you think she’ll be helpful in these runoffs?
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
      She doesn't need to get elected to help the movements. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/stacey-abrams-georgia-voter-suppression-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/stacey-abrams-georgia-vote...
rrss 6y ago
In the special election, the top 3 candidates (two republicans and one democrat) got ~80% of the vote. There were a lot of other democratic candidates that got a total of ~15% of the vote, so it's plausible that Warnock (the democratic candidate in the runoff) could win.

vanattab 6y ago

As a former republican who is afraid of the direction of political dialog in this country. This is the best outcome I could have hoped for. In my option the dismal showing for dems in the congress and many state legislatures and governors and trumps loss is a repudiation for the toxic rhetoric from both groups.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
>As a former republican who is afraid of the direction of political dialog in this country. Specifically what are you afraid of? >In my option the dismal showing for dems in the congress and many state legislatures and governors and trumps loss is a repudiation for the toxic rhetoric from both groups. Can you give me some examples of the toxic rhetoric you see from congressional democrats?
- ufmace 6y ago
  Here's a congressional democrat calling for lists to be drawn up of those who worked with Trump. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078 What do you think they intend to do with those lists?
  - delecti 6y ago
    You're spinning what is essentially "screenshotting tweets" to sound a lot more nefarious than it is. It seems pretty clear to me that she's talking about accountability. It's not about hunting down poor innocent conservatives in their homes, it's making sure that people involved in the administration can't distance themselves from their actions.
  - krapp 6y ago
    Meanwhile, armed mobs of Trump supporters are actually inciting violence, harassing people and plotting kidnappings. What do you think they intend to do with those guns?
    - 6y ago

highmastdon 6y ago

Which part needs recovery? The pandemic, of course, but if it were up to democrats the shops would’ve been closed and businesses bankrupt more than by trying to keep stuff open. Minimum wages have increased, stock market is doing fine, unemployment rate up to SARS-CoV-2 has been lowest, under Obama the national debt grew by 25 (debt-to-gdp) from 40-65 in his first 3 years (!) where Trump only 3 (76-79), people on food stamps lowered drastically in his 3rd year... if you mean that the democrats need to recover from prosperous years by riuning everything, you got it right...