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Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

198 points by soupdiver 6y ago

ihuman 6y ago
This thread has more points, but the CNN thread is older and has more comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967
- RealityVoid 6y ago
  And now they are both flagged. Ridiculous. I doubt the no politics rule on HN is fair at this point. I understand why it's present, but I feel it just silences waves of valid discussion about important topics. I can not help but feel that Trump supporters are brigading these threads and actively trying to bury them. The fact that only old enough accounts can downvote means these are experienced HN contributors. Unsettling, really.
  - LakesideDrive 6y ago
    If it's any consolation, it's probably confirmation bias. I'm a White Nationalist and my accounts are very quickly flagged and shadow banned. That is to say, my perception of the bias here is probably the polar opposite of yours.
alangibson 6y ago
> Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon.
- augustt 6y ago
  Yep. Absolutely disgusting what the Republican party has become. They would gladly auction off our democracy for more flags on their F-150s. At least they can't go any lower, right?
- nobody9999 6y ago
  >> Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump >Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon. Tumult(n.)[0]: "1. violent and noisy commotion or disturbance of a crowd or mob; uproar: The tumult reached its height during the premier's speech. 2. a general outbreak, riot, uprising, or other disorder: The tumult moved toward the embassy. 3. highly distressing agitation of mind or feeling; turbulent mental or emotional disturbance: His placid facade failed to conceal the tumult of his mind." I imagine that many on every side would agree with that statement.
  - alangibson 6y ago
    Eh, I was referring to the 'ending' part not being true.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  I think this very much remains to be seen. There’s a history of movements like this, essentially based around one figure and lacking a coherent ideology, crumbling once Dear Leader is perceived as a loser. It’s not inevitable that that will happen in this case, but it’s certainly plausible. I would assume that most of his bluster about actually winning is aimed more at casting doubt on this in the minds of his followers than any realistic hope of overturning the process.
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  - ThrowawayR2 6y ago
    Not to make people nervous or anything but the US has had a president with non-consecutive terms before. It's not implausible to imagine Trump continuing to direct the Republican party while out of office.
blantonl 6y ago
First thing I am going to do is submit my resume for open tech leadership and policy positions in the new administration. If you are in a position with experience and financial comfort to serve your country with regards to science and technology, the Biden administration will almost certainly be a great place to land. Look for policy and leadership positions in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. I'll be submitting my resume and cover letter just as soon as the transition team site opens.
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entwife 6y ago
I'll believe it when they are out of the White House at the end of January.
adsenseclient 6y ago
very bad news for small and medium business and the ultimate win for the transnational monopolies. Bad news for BTC in the medium term.
dangxiaopin 6y ago
very bad news for small and medium business and the ultimate win for the transnational monopolies. Bad news for BTC in the medium term
grecy 6y ago
#OneTermChump is too good not to trend...
neves 6y ago
Voter suppression. Voting in a working day. Need to register for voting. Legal battles. Inconsistent rules. A refusing to leave president. Is this the model of government that the USA bomb other countries for?
- s9w 6y ago
  I dig the HN fanfiction these days. refusing to leave? He's the president. The next one has not been decided.
  - bdcravens 6y ago
    Correct, he doesn't have to leave until January 20, 2021.
    - s9w 6y ago
      That hasn't yet been decided, but that's not even the point. edit: so i've now been rate limited for posting three things. What the posters beyond assume is not what I meant. I'll not be able to answer for about two days or so. nice
      - bdcravens 6y ago
        Yes, we still have the lawsuits to go through, states must certify their results, and the electoral college must meet on December 14. In other words, the exact same process that happens in every other election (obviously the lawsuits are a slight wrinkle) There's a tiny, tiny chance the results could be changed.
      - esoterica 6y ago
        Did you also go around insisting that the election hadn't been decided yet after the media called it for Trump on election night 2016, or are you only doing it this time around because he lost?
- mmastrac 6y ago
  Unfortunately the red team has been working to disenfranchise as many voters as possible. The country is far bluer than the electoral map would suggest, thanks to years of voter suppression.
adamnemecek 6y ago
What's more surprising is how close this was given the past four years.
- malnourish 6y ago
  Close in the Electoral College, where it matters; quite distant in the popular vote. The gap is estimated to be about 4 million more votes for Biden at this time, it is also the most votes for a president in US history. e: I will concede that it is not "quite distant", though it may not end up close in the EC when it's all said and done either.
  - 1over137 6y ago
    4 million is not a lot in country of 330 million. The popular vote was close to 50/50.
    - malnourish 6y ago
      According to Nate Silver: > Biden is likely to wind up with one of the higher percentages of votes as a share of the U.S. population that we’ve seen in a long time Referencing this tweet, text copied below as well https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1324408585590329345 https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1324408585590329345 [credit: Jacob T. Levy] vote share * turnout Reagan 1984: 53.3*58.8= 31.3% W Bush 2004: 50.7*56.7=28.7% Obama 2008: 52.9*58.2=30.8% Biden 2020, estimated: 51*66 = 33.7% counted so far: 50.5*60.3=30.4% (as of 2020-11-05)
    - tzs 6y ago
      It's probably going to be quite a bit more than 4 million. There are still several heavily blue states that have a lot of votes left to count. California, for example, has only counted 77% of their votes. New York has counted 84%. Illinois has counted 89%. I just caught the end of some discussion of this on NPR. Based on the number of votes left to count in the various states and how they are expected to turn out, there is a good chance it will end up at around 8 million. Also, it probably makes more sense to look at it out of the number of voters, or the number of people who could have voted, rather than out of the whole population.
rvz 6y ago
You mean Kamala Harris for the presidency? Well no wonder she was laughing all the time. Someone just got played. So what happened to ACAB then, was it all a 'projection'?
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systemvoltage 6y ago
Trump has been a cancer of the America. He has deinstitutionalized pretty much any institution, sowed deep hatred in the country and did absolutely nothing good in last 4 years. He is and was unfit for any public office, let alone presidency. HN loves to be neutral and thoughtful, but Trump needs to be condemned in the strongest way possible. It is orthogonal to say "Oh the people voted him in", in the same way we don't say "Hilter rose because of the people, so blame the people". Unchecked broadcasting of hatred, misinformation, lies and breaking down the republic bit by bit with deception needs to be reviewed.
- metalliqaz 6y ago
  he's not even done yet. he has two months now to smash things up. he is absolutely the kind of asshole that would sabotage the whole country to make Biden look bad.
- pjc50 6y ago
  Hitler did rise because of the people, and the Nazi party won 37% of the vote allowing them to lead the governing coalition in 1932. Fascism is very popular among people who don't expect to be its victims. Edit: -2 for historical facts?
randyrand 6y ago
If people agree it was tumultuous why was the race still so close? I really think adding little adjectives like that undermines the respectedness of the NYT
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  These are not mutually exclusive... There is no doubt that Trump's presidency was tumultuous and there is no doubt that the race was indeed quite close.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  A news agency doesn't have to cater to everyone.
  - voisin 6y ago
    This is unfortunately true, but important to point out that it is only a recent truth. Historically news agencies were neutral, striving to report unbiased news. Politicizing current events is relatively new and I do not think has been a positive innovation anywhere in the world.
    - aaomidi 6y ago
      No they absolutely were not. News and media has manufactured consent and outrage since their inception. They're directly responsible for uncovering heinous crimes and for causing them.
    - preben 6y ago
      Media has not been neutral ever. Any choice in publishing one news is simultaneously an active a choice in not publishing another. Furthermore, there is not one singular truth to report in the vast majority of news, in particular of political nature. The solution is not to find another news outlet that feels more like truth. Instead, find a few different news outlets and understand their biases.
  - dgrin91 6y ago
googthrowaway42 6y ago
Headline is false. Biden is projected by the media to defeat Trump. Biden is not President-elect. The President is elected in mid December by the electoral college. Tens of millions of people are about to get a crash course in civics.
- rvz 6y ago
  Don't forget that this is coming from the Twitter ACAB folks celebrating a cop as vice president and potentially taking over the presidency. Guess they're also blind to that one aren't they?
  - googthrowaway42 6y ago
    Salvation within progressivism is gained through faith, not through works. This is why they are completely immune to accusations of hypocrisy.
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alangibson 6y ago
Note to all: it looks like all parts calling Biden the winner are getting flagged.
BlueTemplar 6y ago
With a lead of only 34k votes in Pennsylvania, and 135k ballots still left to count, considering the tensions in the country, IMHO the Associated Press should have waited a bit more before declaring Biden as a winner…
- stu2b50 6y ago
  Everyone with the numbers called it back on Wednesday when Trump technically still had a lead. It's a double whammy: all of the votes left are not only in overwhelmingly blue areas, they're also mail in ballots. They're blue at >80% rate.
  - ModernMech 6y ago
    It was clear to me looking at the PA numbers that Biden had this in the bag by Wednesday morning. All you had to do was look at the fact that even though Trump won the early red states, he was not performing as well as he did in 2016. There was a lot made out of FL going for Trump early on, and he was in fact up there compared to 2016. But that was pretty much one of the only places he was. He ran down 3 in TX, down 5 in GA, down 2 in NC, down 2 in IA, down 4 in WY, down almost 7 in MT and KS, down 7 in ME, down 7 in NH. All told by the end of Tuesday he was down in 30+ states (as it is settling now, he's down in 38 states compared to his 2016 margin). He won PA, MI, and WI by less than a point each in 2016. So if Trump was seeing shifts of 3 away from him in Texas, it didn't take a psychic to know he'd be losing those states he won at such a small margin. If you looked at the numbers in PA on Wednesday morning, what you saw were tons out outstanding ballots in Lehigh, Bucks, Monroe, Philadelphia, and Allegheny counties, all counties that went for Clinton in 2016. You combine that with the fact that Democrats returned mail-in ballots at a rate of 65% compared to 23% for Republicans, and this thing seemed inevitable since about Wednesday morning.
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    Yes, technically Biden is almost certain to win. But this is about taking the high road and not leaving any doubt (that might be exploited to sow more doubt).
gentleman11 6y ago
This is getting flagged every 2 minutes. What is going on?
- DoreenMichele 6y ago
  It's sort of premature to call this "decided." Georgia is likely to do a recount and three states seem to still be outstanding (when I checked moments ago). That may be why.
  - ihuman 6y ago
    Biden doesn't need Georgia to win. Pennsylvania gave him enough electoral votes that he can lose Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia (assuming he wins the other states the media says he won)
    - DoreenMichele 6y ago
      Yes, I'm aware. And Trump is talking of suing (claiming election fraud) as well, or so I understand. My best understanding is this is not really settled yet. I'm guessing this may be a contributing factor to why some people -- not me -- are flagging these articles. Articles get flagged by users. Unless someone doing the flagging is willing to speak up, speculation is all we really have and even having some people speak up doesn't mean we know all the reasons why people choose to flag a piece.
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- cmurf 6y ago
  HN has a double standard. One from 2016 election night not flagged, and the other flagged. Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 [flagged] Joe Biden is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967
vaccinator 6y ago
https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-tally-sparks-claims-election-fraud https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-t...
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Jakobeha 6y ago
Reddit is repeatedly failing to load and I assume this is why
- masteruvpuppetz 6y ago
  I thought it was only me :)
- boruto 6y ago
  https://www.redditstatus.com/#month https://www.redditstatus.com/#month Probably this news is not the reason. no traffic peaks.
hourislate 6y ago
My expectations no matter what the outcome..... Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss -The Who
- chenpengcheng 6y ago
  that is right.
kemonocode 6y ago
Feels more like closure rather than a true victory. It's going to be fun living in an utterly balkanized country the next four years.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Were we not doing that for the past four years? As anarchists march in Portland, Miamians are worried about socialism. Secular policies dominate in California and New York, while religion is invoked by close to every Southern Senator.
- hintymad 6y ago
  And AOC openly calls for hunting down Trump supporters: "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? ". So much for political freedom.
  - sergiotapia 6y ago
    That sent a chill down my spine. A giant red glowing: "WARNING".
  - cozuya 6y ago
    Elections have consequences.
    - apta 6y ago
      Do they include instilling Nazi policies?
      - cozuya 6y ago
        Like keeping and making publicly available a database of people who publicly supported a political candidate? Is that the Nazi policy you're referring to?
        6y ago
sieste 6y ago
Thank you HN for not being completely dominated by this topic over the last few days.

198 points by soupdiver 6y ago

This thread has more points, but the CNN thread is older and has more comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967

RealityVoid 6y ago
And now they are both flagged. Ridiculous. I doubt the no politics rule on HN is fair at this point. I understand why it's present, but I feel it just silences waves of valid discussion about important topics. I can not help but feel that Trump supporters are brigading these threads and actively trying to bury them. The fact that only old enough accounts can downvote means these are experienced HN contributors. Unsettling, really.
- LakesideDrive 6y ago
  If it's any consolation, it's probably confirmation bias. I'm a White Nationalist and my accounts are very quickly flagged and shadow banned. That is to say, my perception of the bias here is probably the polar opposite of yours.

alangibson 6y ago

> Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon.

augustt 6y ago
Yep. Absolutely disgusting what the Republican party has become. They would gladly auction off our democracy for more flags on their F-150s. At least they can't go any lower, right?
nobody9999 6y ago
>> Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump >Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon. Tumult(n.)[0]: "1. violent and noisy commotion or disturbance of a crowd or mob; uproar: The tumult reached its height during the premier's speech. 2. a general outbreak, riot, uprising, or other disorder: The tumult moved toward the embassy. 3. highly distressing agitation of mind or feeling; turbulent mental or emotional disturbance: His placid facade failed to conceal the tumult of his mind." I imagine that many on every side would agree with that statement.
- alangibson 6y ago
  Eh, I was referring to the 'ending' part not being true.
rsynnott 6y ago
I think this very much remains to be seen. There’s a history of movements like this, essentially based around one figure and lacking a coherent ideology, crumbling once Dear Leader is perceived as a loser. It’s not inevitable that that will happen in this case, but it’s certainly plausible. I would assume that most of his bluster about actually winning is aimed more at casting doubt on this in the minds of his followers than any realistic hope of overturning the process.
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- ThrowawayR2 6y ago
  Not to make people nervous or anything but the US has had a president with non-consecutive terms before. It's not implausible to imagine Trump continuing to direct the Republican party while out of office.

blantonl 6y ago

First thing I am going to do is submit my resume for open tech leadership and policy positions in the new administration. If you are in a position with experience and financial comfort to serve your country with regards to science and technology, the Biden administration will almost certainly be a great place to land. Look for policy and leadership positions in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. I'll be submitting my resume and cover letter just as soon as the transition team site opens.

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entwife 6y ago

I'll believe it when they are out of the White House at the end of January.

adsenseclient 6y ago

very bad news for small and medium business and the ultimate win for the transnational monopolies. Bad news for BTC in the medium term.

dangxiaopin 6y ago

very bad news for small and medium business and the ultimate win for the transnational monopolies. Bad news for BTC in the medium term

grecy 6y ago

#OneTermChump is too good not to trend...

neves 6y ago

Voter suppression. Voting in a working day. Need to register for voting. Legal battles. Inconsistent rules. A refusing to leave president. Is this the model of government that the USA bomb other countries for?

s9w 6y ago
I dig the HN fanfiction these days. refusing to leave? He's the president. The next one has not been decided.
- bdcravens 6y ago
  Correct, he doesn't have to leave until January 20, 2021.
  - s9w 6y ago
    That hasn't yet been decided, but that's not even the point. edit: so i've now been rate limited for posting three things. What the posters beyond assume is not what I meant. I'll not be able to answer for about two days or so. nice
    - bdcravens 6y ago
      Yes, we still have the lawsuits to go through, states must certify their results, and the electoral college must meet on December 14. In other words, the exact same process that happens in every other election (obviously the lawsuits are a slight wrinkle) There's a tiny, tiny chance the results could be changed.
    - esoterica 6y ago
      Did you also go around insisting that the election hadn't been decided yet after the media called it for Trump on election night 2016, or are you only doing it this time around because he lost?
mmastrac 6y ago
Unfortunately the red team has been working to disenfranchise as many voters as possible. The country is far bluer than the electoral map would suggest, thanks to years of voter suppression.

adamnemecek 6y ago

What's more surprising is how close this was given the past four years.

malnourish 6y ago
Close in the Electoral College, where it matters; quite distant in the popular vote. The gap is estimated to be about 4 million more votes for Biden at this time, it is also the most votes for a president in US history. e: I will concede that it is not "quite distant", though it may not end up close in the EC when it's all said and done either.
- 1over137 6y ago
  4 million is not a lot in country of 330 million. The popular vote was close to 50/50.
  - malnourish 6y ago
    According to Nate Silver: > Biden is likely to wind up with one of the higher percentages of votes as a share of the U.S. population that we’ve seen in a long time Referencing this tweet, text copied below as well https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1324408585590329345 https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1324408585590329345 [credit: Jacob T. Levy] vote share * turnout Reagan 1984: 53.3*58.8= 31.3% W Bush 2004: 50.7*56.7=28.7% Obama 2008: 52.9*58.2=30.8% Biden 2020, estimated: 51*66 = 33.7% counted so far: 50.5*60.3=30.4% (as of 2020-11-05)
  - tzs 6y ago
    It's probably going to be quite a bit more than 4 million. There are still several heavily blue states that have a lot of votes left to count. California, for example, has only counted 77% of their votes. New York has counted 84%. Illinois has counted 89%. I just caught the end of some discussion of this on NPR. Based on the number of votes left to count in the various states and how they are expected to turn out, there is a good chance it will end up at around 8 million. Also, it probably makes more sense to look at it out of the number of voters, or the number of people who could have voted, rather than out of the whole population.

rvz 6y ago

You mean Kamala Harris for the presidency? Well no wonder she was laughing all the time. Someone just got played. So what happened to ACAB then, was it all a 'projection'?

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systemvoltage 6y ago

Trump has been a cancer of the America. He has deinstitutionalized pretty much any institution, sowed deep hatred in the country and did absolutely nothing good in last 4 years. He is and was unfit for any public office, let alone presidency. HN loves to be neutral and thoughtful, but Trump needs to be condemned in the strongest way possible. It is orthogonal to say "Oh the people voted him in", in the same way we don't say "Hilter rose because of the people, so blame the people". Unchecked broadcasting of hatred, misinformation, lies and breaking down the republic bit by bit with deception needs to be reviewed.

metalliqaz 6y ago
he's not even done yet. he has two months now to smash things up. he is absolutely the kind of asshole that would sabotage the whole country to make Biden look bad.
pjc50 6y ago
Hitler did rise because of the people, and the Nazi party won 37% of the vote allowing them to lead the governing coalition in 1932. Fascism is very popular among people who don't expect to be its victims. Edit: -2 for historical facts?

randyrand 6y ago

If people agree it was tumultuous why was the race still so close? I really think adding little adjectives like that undermines the respectedness of the NYT

mytailorisrich 6y ago
These are not mutually exclusive... There is no doubt that Trump's presidency was tumultuous and there is no doubt that the race was indeed quite close.
aaomidi 6y ago
A news agency doesn't have to cater to everyone.
- voisin 6y ago
  This is unfortunately true, but important to point out that it is only a recent truth. Historically news agencies were neutral, striving to report unbiased news. Politicizing current events is relatively new and I do not think has been a positive innovation anywhere in the world.
  - aaomidi 6y ago
    No they absolutely were not. News and media has manufactured consent and outrage since their inception. They're directly responsible for uncovering heinous crimes and for causing them.
  - preben 6y ago
    Media has not been neutral ever. Any choice in publishing one news is simultaneously an active a choice in not publishing another. Furthermore, there is not one singular truth to report in the vast majority of news, in particular of political nature. The solution is not to find another news outlet that feels more like truth. Instead, find a few different news outlets and understand their biases.
- dgrin91 6y ago

googthrowaway42 6y ago

Headline is false. Biden is projected by the media to defeat Trump. Biden is not President-elect. The President is elected in mid December by the electoral college. Tens of millions of people are about to get a crash course in civics.

rvz 6y ago
Don't forget that this is coming from the Twitter ACAB folks celebrating a cop as vice president and potentially taking over the presidency. Guess they're also blind to that one aren't they?
- googthrowaway42 6y ago
  Salvation within progressivism is gained through faith, not through works. This is why they are completely immune to accusations of hypocrisy.
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alangibson 6y ago

Note to all: it looks like all parts calling Biden the winner are getting flagged.

BlueTemplar 6y ago

With a lead of only 34k votes in Pennsylvania, and 135k ballots still left to count, considering the tensions in the country, IMHO the Associated Press should have waited a bit more before declaring Biden as a winner…

stu2b50 6y ago
Everyone with the numbers called it back on Wednesday when Trump technically still had a lead. It's a double whammy: all of the votes left are not only in overwhelmingly blue areas, they're also mail in ballots. They're blue at >80% rate.
- ModernMech 6y ago
  It was clear to me looking at the PA numbers that Biden had this in the bag by Wednesday morning. All you had to do was look at the fact that even though Trump won the early red states, he was not performing as well as he did in 2016. There was a lot made out of FL going for Trump early on, and he was in fact up there compared to 2016. But that was pretty much one of the only places he was. He ran down 3 in TX, down 5 in GA, down 2 in NC, down 2 in IA, down 4 in WY, down almost 7 in MT and KS, down 7 in ME, down 7 in NH. All told by the end of Tuesday he was down in 30+ states (as it is settling now, he's down in 38 states compared to his 2016 margin). He won PA, MI, and WI by less than a point each in 2016. So if Trump was seeing shifts of 3 away from him in Texas, it didn't take a psychic to know he'd be losing those states he won at such a small margin. If you looked at the numbers in PA on Wednesday morning, what you saw were tons out outstanding ballots in Lehigh, Bucks, Monroe, Philadelphia, and Allegheny counties, all counties that went for Clinton in 2016. You combine that with the fact that Democrats returned mail-in ballots at a rate of 65% compared to 23% for Republicans, and this thing seemed inevitable since about Wednesday morning.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Yes, technically Biden is almost certain to win. But this is about taking the high road and not leaving any doubt (that might be exploited to sow more doubt).

gentleman11 6y ago

This is getting flagged every 2 minutes. What is going on?

DoreenMichele 6y ago
It's sort of premature to call this "decided." Georgia is likely to do a recount and three states seem to still be outstanding (when I checked moments ago). That may be why.
- ihuman 6y ago
  Biden doesn't need Georgia to win. Pennsylvania gave him enough electoral votes that he can lose Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia (assuming he wins the other states the media says he won)
  - DoreenMichele 6y ago
    Yes, I'm aware. And Trump is talking of suing (claiming election fraud) as well, or so I understand. My best understanding is this is not really settled yet. I'm guessing this may be a contributing factor to why some people -- not me -- are flagging these articles. Articles get flagged by users. Unless someone doing the flagging is willing to speak up, speculation is all we really have and even having some people speak up doesn't mean we know all the reasons why people choose to flag a piece.
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cmurf 6y ago
HN has a double standard. One from 2016 election night not flagged, and the other flagged. Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 [flagged] Joe Biden is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967

vaccinator 6y ago

https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-tally-sparks-claims-election-fraud https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-t...

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Jakobeha 6y ago

Reddit is repeatedly failing to load and I assume this is why

masteruvpuppetz 6y ago
I thought it was only me :)
boruto 6y ago
https://www.redditstatus.com/#month https://www.redditstatus.com/#month Probably this news is not the reason. no traffic peaks.

hourislate 6y ago

My expectations no matter what the outcome..... Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss -The Who

chenpengcheng 6y ago
that is right.

kemonocode 6y ago

Feels more like closure rather than a true victory. It's going to be fun living in an utterly balkanized country the next four years.

CameronNemo 6y ago
Were we not doing that for the past four years? As anarchists march in Portland, Miamians are worried about socialism. Secular policies dominate in California and New York, while religion is invoked by close to every Southern Senator.
hintymad 6y ago
And AOC openly calls for hunting down Trump supporters: "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? ". So much for political freedom.
- sergiotapia 6y ago
  That sent a chill down my spine. A giant red glowing: "WARNING".
- cozuya 6y ago
  Elections have consequences.
  - apta 6y ago
    Do they include instilling Nazi policies?
    - cozuya 6y ago
      Like keeping and making publicly available a database of people who publicly supported a political candidate? Is that the Nazi policy you're referring to?
      - 6y ago

sieste 6y ago

Thank you HN for not being completely dominated by this topic over the last few days.