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Biden Defeats Trump to Become Next President
- ihuman 6y agoThere are other threads with a lot of points, but they've been flagged. I'm assuming this one will be flagged too. NY Times https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25016070 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25016070 CNN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967
- granzymes 6y agoFor everyone flagging this: the thread when Trump won in 2016 is one of the highest-voted threads of all time. This belongs on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201
- systemvoltage 6y agoBecause it had thoughtful discussion. Just look at the other threads on HN.
- ihuman 6y agoBut the threads keep getting flagged and buried before the discussion really starts. Its a catch-22.
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- qz2 6y agoPhew. As a U.K. citizen I look forward to our government shitting itself next.
- tim333 6y agoI wonder if, after we have our brilliant brexit deal, there will be some opportunity to ask the nation if we actually want the thing.
- qz2 6y agoI doubt it. And if there was I get the feeling that Murdoch's machine will be fired up to set the result, which is bad. So we're fucked either way. The only thing we have now is the bungling twat and the gremlin pulling the strings that are running this shit show are getting their options radically limited. Hopefully there will be an internal revolt against them.
- sidpatil 6y agoThis is a projection. edit: I was wrong. Headline is accurate.
- iisbum 6y agoSo were all the other states they called, what's your point?
- s9w 6y agoHeadline is not true
- iisbum 6y agoHeadline is accurate
- s9w 6y agoNot only is the headline not identical to the article, but it is also not true. It is also against the site guidelines, but no one cares for those anyways.
- gamblor956 6y agoThe title of the article is "Biden defeats Trump to win White House, NBC News projects"
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y agoI hope the runoffs in Georgia swing blue. A Republican controlled Senate will stall our recovery from trump for at least a couple more years.
- gruez 6y agoIsn't that almost impossible? AFAIK the votes were approximately split 3 ways across 2 republicans and 1 democrat. That's the only reason why the democratic candidate was even ahead.
- gamblor956 6y agoNo, there are 2 senate races, and each had a Republican and a Democrat as top two vote-getters. In one race, the Republican came on top and in the other the Democrat did, but neither winner reached the 50% threshold required by state law, so both races are going to runoff. In the race the Democrat was leading, the Republican candidate had a history of minor (local) scandals, and only held the seat because she was appointed to it.
- akiselev 6y agoIt's almost impossible for another reason: Dem turnout in runoff elections falls off precipitously.
- mmaurizi 6y agoWell that was the case pre-2016 election. 2017-2020 Democrats did very well in special elections. It remains to be seen what happens to democratic enthusiasm under a Biden presidency.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y agoDon't underestimate Stacey Abrams. https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/ https://fairfight.com/about-stacey-abrams/
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- alangibson 6y agoI've seen several posts calling Biden the winner get flagged. Let's see how long this one hangs around. Edit: Looks like even a simple statement of fact on this topic gets downvoters. Anyone care to state their reasons?
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- almost_usual 6y agoProbably four years
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoIt's been called by all the press agencies now.
- redcitylights 6y agoHow do you downvote?
- ColanR 6y agoYou need 501 karma or more to downvote.
- ColanR 6y agoSo what does this mean for potential recounts? Would they still mean anything, or is it pretty much known at this point?
- marcusverus 6y agoThe article contains projections made by news outlets based on publicly available vote data. Based on those data, Biden has won. The lawsuits and potential recounts are a separate process which are unaffected by the projections made by media outlets. That said, it looks like the Trump campaign would have to flip three states to win, which seems unlikely.
- akmarinov 6y agoRecounts in the past have had a difference in the hundreds. Biden is leading in most places by thousands, sometimes tens of thousands.
- aaomidi 6y agoGoing off of what's happened historically it's a done deal by this point.
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- systemvoltage 6y agoGeorgia is going to recount since it is so close. I support that. Neither Trump nor Biden requested it, it was the state official who announced a recount.
- paulgb 6y agoIt is. For what it's worth, Georgia hasn't been called, so the outcome of the recount will not change the headline call.
- ivraatiems 6y agoIt'll take a while for the media to decide what narrative to settle on about how and why this happened, but to be honest, I don't think we should overthink it: America has many systematic and cultural problems, and a deep divide about how it ought to be governed, and by who. Ultimately, though, a slim majority of voting Americans were not willing to tolerate the level of severe mismanagement of government that Donald Trump delivered, particularly over the last year with regards to coronavirus. I think this says much less about us - good or bad - than we'd like it to. Personally, I am relieved, but I know the societal problems in this country will continue. I wish Joe Biden and Kamala Harris good luck, but I am not going to be cutting them a break, either. We still have to decide what sort of country we want to be.
- lvspiff 6y agoWhile I agree with most of your narrative the still outstanding piece beyond the president is the Democrats loosing seats in the house and not gaining control of the Senate. While they did get the presidency by a relatively slim margin in a few states the bigger picture it will be hard, if not impossible, to implement many of his agenda goals unless he can reach across the isle somehow (and the other side is accepting). This is not a solid or mandate win by any means I do not believe. Not gaining the senate, not getting a supermajority in house, these were things that would've said the American people outright rejected trump. While we have a new president in the Whitehouse the country could potential be deadlocked for the next 2-4 years.
- alangibson 6y agoAaaand flagged. FYI there's an active campaign going on to flag every thread calling Biden the winner
- ColanR 6y agoMostly it looks like the discussion devolved past the point of value.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y agoIf you can, vouch for the post, i did. This belongs here. Trump's win was discussed here. This should be too. A Biden Harris presidency has major ramifications for basically every industry and company discussed here. Dang Will likely merge the various posts about this.
- briantakita 6y agoDewey defeats Truman Madame President
- rdiddly 6y agoIs dang out of bed yet? All the flagging going on is childish.