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Quine Relay

119 points by _zhqs 6y ago

loosetypes 6y ago
Projects with no veil of utility are great! I would love to read the author’s book, The World of Obfuscated, Esoteric, Artistic Programming. http://gihyo.jp/book/2015/978-4-7741-7643-7 http://gihyo.jp/book/2015/978-4-7741-7643-7 So I was sad to see it only available in Japanese. But then, I was happy to have found something written, potentially for the joy of it, not necessarily on the main stage to maximize internet reach.
- spekcular 6y ago
  How hard would it be to crowdfund a translation effort? In principle this could be done through Kickstarter, right?
montalbano 6y ago
Note this is written by Yusuke Endoh, one of the top obfuscated-code competition winners in the world. Given that Christmas is coming up, and it never seems to get traction here on HN, I'll take the opportunity to link to another of his quines here. It's one of my favourite pieces of code ever, a christmas-themed animation which doubles as a quine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0eaf9iLKxg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0eaf9iLKxg Edit: I have to re-iterate, he is truly a genius. It's worth spending time going through his other videos too.
- patrec 6y ago
  Only ~800 likes :(
fouronnes3 6y ago
This is absolutely mind boggling to me. I've written a normal quine before and that was a fun challenge, but this is just so incredible I have absolutely no idea how it's even remotely possible.
jgilias 6y ago
This is... Humbling.
- noneeeed 6y ago
  Ikr? I saw him present this at a conference, you could almost hear the audience collectively recalibrating their self-image in light of this new data point.
just_steve_h 6y ago
THIS is the Premium Content I subscribed for!
aarondp 6y ago
Great
curiouscc 6y ago
Does the first language (in this case Ruby) need to be script language and/or a way to read itself?
- fouronnes3 6y ago
  I have no idea how this is implemented, but for regular quines (i.e. just a program that outputs its own source code) reading the source file is obviously not allowed. Plus there's isn't really a "first language" since the whole thing is a loop anyway.
atesti 6y ago
Does someone know how this works? He wrote a book about it, but it's Japanese which I cannot read
- montalbano 6y ago
  Not applicable specifically to Quine Relay, but the author gave a few interesting talks in English over the years at RubyConf where he discusses some of the obfuscated code techniques he uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7EmeptEHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7EmeptEHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgF75PjxHHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgF75PjxHHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1GNpT1dEw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1GNpT1dEw

119 points by _zhqs 6y ago

Projects with no veil of utility are great! I would love to read the author’s book, The World of Obfuscated, Esoteric, Artistic Programming. http://gihyo.jp/book/2015/978-4-7741-7643-7 http://gihyo.jp/book/2015/978-4-7741-7643-7 So I was sad to see it only available in Japanese. But then, I was happy to have found something written, potentially for the joy of it, not necessarily on the main stage to maximize internet reach.

spekcular 6y ago
How hard would it be to crowdfund a translation effort? In principle this could be done through Kickstarter, right?

montalbano 6y ago

Note this is written by Yusuke Endoh, one of the top obfuscated-code competition winners in the world. Given that Christmas is coming up, and it never seems to get traction here on HN, I'll take the opportunity to link to another of his quines here. It's one of my favourite pieces of code ever, a christmas-themed animation which doubles as a quine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0eaf9iLKxg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0eaf9iLKxg Edit: I have to re-iterate, he is truly a genius. It's worth spending time going through his other videos too.

patrec 6y ago
Only ~800 likes :(

fouronnes3 6y ago

This is absolutely mind boggling to me. I've written a normal quine before and that was a fun challenge, but this is just so incredible I have absolutely no idea how it's even remotely possible.

jgilias 6y ago

This is... Humbling.

noneeeed 6y ago
Ikr? I saw him present this at a conference, you could almost hear the audience collectively recalibrating their self-image in light of this new data point.

just_steve_h 6y ago

THIS is the Premium Content I subscribed for!

aarondp 6y ago

Great

curiouscc 6y ago

Does the first language (in this case Ruby) need to be script language and/or a way to read itself?

fouronnes3 6y ago
I have no idea how this is implemented, but for regular quines (i.e. just a program that outputs its own source code) reading the source file is obviously not allowed. Plus there's isn't really a "first language" since the whole thing is a loop anyway.

atesti 6y ago

Does someone know how this works? He wrote a book about it, but it's Japanese which I cannot read

montalbano 6y ago
Not applicable specifically to Quine Relay, but the author gave a few interesting talks in English over the years at RubyConf where he discusses some of the obfuscated code techniques he uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7EmeptEHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7EmeptEHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgF75PjxHHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgF75PjxHHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1GNpT1dEw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1GNpT1dEw