Some of them move back to PHP once they realise the PHP standard lib is actually rediculously full of helpful tools for web development and the idea of treating

Some of them move back to PHP once they realise the PHP standard lib is actually rediculously full of helpful tools for web development and the idea of treating individual PHP files and the directory hierarchy as the routing structure makes everything so bloody simple. Pair that with apache and the newer mod php and you have an extremely easy to up and running situation. Development feedback loop is rediculous and everything is simple again. Frameworks need to die.