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But why? Why do people have to carry a wallet everywhere, unless they want to? I have my payment cards on my watch. Pre-pandemic, my gym membership card was on

But why? Why do people have to carry a wallet everywhere, unless they want to? I have my payment cards on my watch. Pre-pandemic, my gym membership card was on my watch. If I had my ID on my watch as well, I don't ever have to worry about a wallet being stolen because I wouldn't carry one. Sure, people can steal your watch at gunpoint- but it can be remotely disabled (even if you were forced to give your passcode under duress), and you'd still have a physical ID card at home you can use.

rmrfstar 6y ago
What if you had a serious business dispute with Apple or Google, and were (justifiably) uncomfortable walking around with a mobile bug running software of their choosing? [1] For most people on this site, this kind of threat is far more likely than the mugging you described. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-v...
- austhrow743 6y ago
  Then 1. Keep using a drivers licence in card form. 2. If you want to use it in phone form instead despite your dispute with google and apple, have it on a phone thats not made by google or apple. 3. If you insist on using a google or apple phone for your drivers licence phone app despite your dispute with google and apple, just leave it off after putting your licence on it except for when you need your licence, and don't connect it to the internet.
- lern_too_spel 6y ago
  There is a standard that allows you to make a compatible implementation on a device without Apple or Google software.
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    Which device would that be? This is pure interoperability theatre by a duopoly.
- diebeforei485 6y ago
  Presumably you aren't in dispute with everyone, so you can use a phone from a company other than the one you're in dispute with. Eg. If you're an ex-Google employee or contractor, use a personal iPhone without any Google apps on them.

rmrfstar 6y ago

What if you had a serious business dispute with Apple or Google, and were (justifiably) uncomfortable walking around with a mobile bug running software of their choosing? [1] For most people on this site, this kind of threat is far more likely than the mugging you described. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-v...

austhrow743 6y ago
Then 1. Keep using a drivers licence in card form. 2. If you want to use it in phone form instead despite your dispute with google and apple, have it on a phone thats not made by google or apple. 3. If you insist on using a google or apple phone for your drivers licence phone app despite your dispute with google and apple, just leave it off after putting your licence on it except for when you need your licence, and don't connect it to the internet.
lern_too_spel 6y ago
There is a standard that allows you to make a compatible implementation on a device without Apple or Google software.
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  Which device would that be? This is pure interoperability theatre by a duopoly.
diebeforei485 6y ago
Presumably you aren't in dispute with everyone, so you can use a phone from a company other than the one you're in dispute with. Eg. If you're an ex-Google employee or contractor, use a personal iPhone without any Google apps on them.