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Also: how a post at #28 on HN went to position <not in the top 500> in the time it took me to walk from my balcony to my desk. https://i.imgur.com/OsBFDUX.png
by mistermann 6y ago
Also: how a post at #28 on HN went to position <not in the top 500> in the time it took me to walk from my balcony to my desk.
https://i.imgur.com/OsBFDUX.png https://i.imgur.com/OsBFDUX.png
Still available with search though: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=How+a+misleading+post+went+from+the+fringes+to+Trump%E2%80%99s+Twitter https://hn.algolia.com/?q=How+a+misleading+post+went+from+th...
> 8kun is a message board filled with extreme language and views. It's popular with far-right activists and believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory - a belief system which says that Trump is waging a secret war against satanic elitist paedophiles.
https://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html https://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html
> A "loaded question", like a loaded gun, is a dangerous thing. A loaded question is a question with a false or questionable presupposition, and it is "loaded" with that presumption. The question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" presupposes that you have beaten your wife prior to its asking, as well as that you have a wife. If you are unmarried, or have never beaten your wife, then the question is loaded. Since this example is a yes/no question, there are only the following two direct answers:
> "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which entails "I was beating my wife."
> "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which entails "I am still beating my wife."
Propaganda...so easy, and yet so effective at shaping beliefs (even of intelligent people), especially when there is some truth to it (real, or established).
EDIT: looks like it's been taken care of for good now:
> [flagged] [dead] How a misleading post went from the fringes to Trump’s Twitter (bbc.com)
Funny how it disappeared from the top 500 before even being flagged. It will be interesting to see how many "dogs that didn't bark" there will be 1/3/6/12 months from now in the good ole US of A.
I guess now we'll see if my two admirers show up now that the post isn't accessible.
Reminder to self: some kind stranger gave me one upvote, so the usual -1 final score should be 0 this time.
- taxicab 6y agoThe troves of people that flag any news that offends their ideological beliefs is easily the most enraging thing about how HN deals with politics. The way I see it, you can either have politics on the site or not. You can't have politics, but then filter it out to the point that the front page is an alternate reality bubble where Trump doesn't lie daily. Stuff like this will get consisted flagged to the depths of HN while conservative victimization porn from tabloids about how Mailchimp and the liberal elite are coming to take away your conservative values and censor your views will linger on the first few pages for days. You can't have it both ways. IMO, HN needs to rethink the way it's flagging system works to prevent abuse.