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For anyone interested, I expounded at some length a while back about why method patents are well-entrenched in U.S. law and about the philosophical debate surro
by grellas 16y ago
For anyone interested, I expounded at some length a while back about why method patents are well-entrenched in U.S. law and about the philosophical debate surrounding them over the years (see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1171821 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1171821). Software patents, of course, fit within that mold and, in light of Bilski, will not be subject to any form of categorical challenge for years to come in the courts. The issue lies with Congress, and this piece sets forth an excellent way of making the right kind of policy challenge (in contrast to the more superficial "this is ridiculous" kind of point which, though sometimes true, the patent bar is usually quite good at rebutting, at least based on existing legal standards - see, e.g., http://hallingblog.com/2010/05/26/patent-ignorance/ http://hallingblog.com/2010/05/26/patent-ignorance/).
In the analog era of patents, the U.S. courts went nearly two centuries in which the idea of a patent was strongly tied to that of a "machine" and where they often held that, while an original invention was in itself patentable, an improvement upon that invention was not. For example, in 1875, the Supreme Court held that "it is no new invention to use an old machine for a new purpose" (I cite and discuss this in the linked item above). It was not until 1952 that Congress overruled this line of cases in amending the patent statutes, setting the stage for what became an eventual flood of software patents as the digital age began.
The policy issue making software patents problematic in our digital age is that patentable software innovations, though supportable under current legal standards, basically are creating an ever-complex web of closely-interrelated and incremental improvements in any given area (e.g., mobile devices) such that no one can develop anything there without getting entangled in the web. It is not just tricky. It is impossible. The only way to defend is to make your own web (your "defensive patent portfolio" or your "defensive pool") and use that to catch others before or as they catch you. If you don't have that, you are in trouble.
Is this, then, what was intended by the Progress Clause of the Constitution (Article I, sec. 8, cl. 8) when it provided that the Congress shall have the power "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"? Just how do these tangled webs of 1-and-0 based incremental improvements that are a normal part of all software development in the first place manage to promote the progress of science and useful arts?
The cause for reform in this area will be won or lost based on how the issues are framed and here we have a good example of how to begin to mount an effective challenge.
- JoshTriplett 16y ago> here we have a good example of how to begin to mount an effective challenge. If you want to successfully make something sound like a problem to a government, don't describe it as a "tax" and expect them to think of that as bad.
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- brlewis 16y agoYou say "the patent bar is usally quite good at rebutting" and give a link to someone making unsubstantiated claims that the Supreme Court doesn't know what it's talking about. Engineer, lawyer, whoever you are, a logical argument traces evidence from A to Z, such that another logical thinker, even from another field, can follow the argument with sufficient effort and study. Though I am not a lawyer, I do not see this blog post as an effective, logical rebuttal to the Supreme Court. I see no compelling reason to side with those who choose to ignore Supreme Court precedent. I haven't read Bilski in its entirety, but on the very first page of the syllabus I read them slamming down the State Street decision and reaffirming Benson, Flook and Diehr. If software patents will not be subject to any categorical challenge for years to come, I think it will be in spite of Bilski, not because of it. I'd be interested in any detailed arguments to the contrary.
- brlewis 16y agoI'm reading through Bilski now, and I note that Justice Stevens rebuts part of your exposition from a while back. He does not see the change in language in the 1952 patent act as expanding the scope of patentable subject matter, but that the change in language "merely codified the prevailing judicial interpretation of that category of subject matter."