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That analogy doesn't map by my logic. It would be more like putting up a plaque that says, "I'm proud of my brother for engaging in risk taking behavior until i
by DubiousPusher 6y ago
That analogy doesn't map by my logic. It would be more like putting up a plaque that says, "I'm proud of my brother for engaging in risk taking behavior until it caused him to crash his car and die."
Also, victims of car crashes aren't generally used in national pageantry aimed at causing more car crashes.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> It would be more like putting up a plaque that says, "I'm proud of my brother for engaging in risk taking behavior until it caused him to crash his car and die." Are you comparing people fighting desperately for national survival, some of whom were conscripts and had no choice, to 'engaging in risk taking behavior' such as driving your car irresponsibly?
- DubiousPusher 6y agoConscripts no. Volunteers sort of. People in WWII less so than WWI less so than most recent conflicts. But this is exactly my problem with veterans rarara. It's totallizing where we should have razor sharp nuance.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> we should have razor sharp nuance How about on this day we just say 'it's sad anyone had to die, no matter which side they were on or how they ended up in that situation'? That's what a poppy is.
- DubiousPusher 6y agoThat begs the question that people "had" to die. That is exactly my problem.
- chrisseaton 6y agoI don't think that's what 'had' means in this context if you read it more charitably. You can rephrase as 'it's sad anyone died, no matter which side they were on or how they ended up in that situation' if you find it confusing otherwise.
- DubiousPusher 6y agoThis context is very weird. I don't really have a problem with this tradition. But I do see how it can be political. In the U.S. there is memorial day and veterans day and they are very political. My main issue is I do not get the analogy. Those two things are very different to me.