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> However, I do not believe that this is the primary barrier to entry, but rather the fact that practicing the philosophy is hard, slow work. Just as effective
by 0xcde4c3db 6y ago
> However, I do not believe that this is the primary barrier to entry, but rather the fact that practicing the philosophy is hard, slow work. Just as effective CBT asks a lot of the patient, Stoicism is not a quick fix.
For me the primary barrier is that I don't see how they actually apply to me. Their explanations start from places that I don't recognize, let alone know how to reach. As far as I can tell, they simply don't talk about the sorts of experiences that I regularly struggle with (basically a bunch of stuff that sort of looks like a cross between a neurodevelopmental condition and a depressive disorder, but without any specific diagnosis or treatment really sticking).
Have you ever run into a problem with some software and gone to its tech support site, only to find that the knowledge base is just a bunch of descriptions of how the software is supposed to work, written for people who are using the software wrong? Click the X button, it says, and then when Y happens you can do Z. But you went looking for support because the X button was disabled, so you couldn't really click it in the first place. To me, CBT and Stoic explanations of the human experience hit a lot like that.
- steve_adams_86 6y agoI agree. I’m not sure if this is nonsense. I just find it has been the case in my experience: The menu items are very slow to be enabled and it seems to require very hands on, personal experience, and analyzing those experiences with the appropriate philosophical lens(es) either in the moment or soon after. It’s like I need to go through a process with the right philosophical “attitude” in order to distill the most useful understanding of the philosophy. Reflection helps but it’s far too nebulous for me to leverage it for real, meaningful personal gains. It’s just a facet of the bigger picture.