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> So, I have to ask, does anyone know if Bloomberg actually published the evidence they claimed they would release? In the first article, Bloomberg quoted Joe
by shakna 6y ago
> So, I have to ask, does anyone know if Bloomberg actually published the evidence they claimed they would release?
In the first article, Bloomberg quoted Joe Fitzpatrick. 5 days later [0] he said his quotes were taken out of context.
In the second article, Bloomberg quoted Yossi Appleboum, who on the same day the article broke suggested that he was misrepresented. [1]
Apple, Amazon, Homeland Security, and others have all said there was no evidence at all, and called for a retraction.
As it stands... Bloomberg were talking about something they didn't understand. There were and are some theoretical problems in hardware security. But the story as they broke it is completely false.
[0] https://risky.biz/RB517_feature/ https://risky.biz/RB517_feature/
[1] https://www.servethehome.com/yossi-appleboum-disagrees-bloomberg-is-positioning-his-research-against-supermicro/ https://www.servethehome.com/yossi-appleboum-disagrees-bloom...
- rmrfstar 6y agoIt's worth noting that Apple and Amazon can't lie about their business without opening themselves up to potential criminal liability under securities laws. [1] That means Apple and Amazon are more credible in this case, unless there is some super secret NatSec exception to securities law that we don't know about. [1] Specifically, SEC Rule 14a-9 in conjunction with Section 32(a) of the Exchange Act.
- snypher 6y agoIf it was true, would they disclose, even if they could? It's not a secret exemption, it's all in the law, Section 505 of the PATRIOT Act.
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- roenxi 6y ago> unless there is some super secret NatSec exception to securities law that we don't know about. Did you not hear about the phonetapping business [0]? There is no way that a government-sponsored secret hardware backdoor would get any executives in trouble. SEC rules are not a reasonable protection - or even consideration - when dealing with the US spying apparatus. If there was a hardware backdoor program: (1) There would be a secret exemption to SEC rules. (2) There would probably be a secret "we will end you" threat if the execs revealed details. Snowden & Assange would be mentioned. (3) Even ignoring those two points, the rules would be ignored and changed later if there were any legal difficulties. [0] https://www.cnet.com/news/senate-endorses-retroactive-fisa-immunity-for-warrantless-wiretapping/ https://www.cnet.com/news/senate-endorses-retroactive-fisa-i...
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