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it's a couple of poor people in south-east asia making some money on youtube... is that more exploitative and cruel to animals than the meat industry? i don't t

by kome 6y ago

it's a couple of poor people in south-east asia making some money on youtube... is that more exploitative and cruel to animals than the meat industry? i don't think so.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
I do think it's worse. The YT videos are a form of entertainment whereas the treatment animals get in the food industry is in the service of feeding people. Yes, there is a lot of unnecessary suffering in the meat industry. However this is a result of producers competing to offer the lowest prices and the consumer buying the lowest price they can find and being unaware of the suffering of the animals. In this case the suffering of the animal is the spectacle that is being offered as the product.
- kome 6y ago
  "The YT videos are a form of entertainment whereas the treatment animals get in the food industry is in the service of feeding people." False, both are for money - you don't need mass exploitation of animals to feed people - as you rightly point out: "there is a lot of unnecessary suffering in the meat industry. However this is a result of producers competing to offer the lowest prices and the consumer buying the lowest price they can find and being unaware of the suffering of the animals." How is this different from this kind of videos? It's all about consumer buying the product (watching the videos) and being unaware of the suffering of the animals.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    both are for money but the suffering of the animal is necessary for the video and unnecessary for the food.
bigbubba 6y ago
I'm sure there are plenty of 'poor people in south-east asia making some money on youtube' who are doing it without making fraudulent content. Why don't you save your sympathy for them, rather than offering it to the scammers?
seles 6y ago
Meat industry cruelty does no make this cruelty ok, nor does this cruelty make the meat industry cruelty ok. Does anyone know the name for this type of fallacy? Not False Dichotomy but similar?
- npteljes 6y ago
  Whataboutism I think. Bringing up another issue, to distract from the current issue.

by kome 6y ago

it's a couple of poor people in south-east asia making some money on youtube... is that more exploitative and cruel to animals than the meat industry? i don't think so.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago

I do think it's worse. The YT videos are a form of entertainment whereas the treatment animals get in the food industry is in the service of feeding people. Yes, there is a lot of unnecessary suffering in the meat industry. However this is a result of producers competing to offer the lowest prices and the consumer buying the lowest price they can find and being unaware of the suffering of the animals. In this case the suffering of the animal is the spectacle that is being offered as the product.

kome 6y ago
"The YT videos are a form of entertainment whereas the treatment animals get in the food industry is in the service of feeding people." False, both are for money - you don't need mass exploitation of animals to feed people - as you rightly point out: "there is a lot of unnecessary suffering in the meat industry. However this is a result of producers competing to offer the lowest prices and the consumer buying the lowest price they can find and being unaware of the suffering of the animals." How is this different from this kind of videos? It's all about consumer buying the product (watching the videos) and being unaware of the suffering of the animals.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  both are for money but the suffering of the animal is necessary for the video and unnecessary for the food.

bigbubba 6y ago

I'm sure there are plenty of 'poor people in south-east asia making some money on youtube' who are doing it without making fraudulent content. Why don't you save your sympathy for them, rather than offering it to the scammers?

seles 6y ago

Meat industry cruelty does no make this cruelty ok, nor does this cruelty make the meat industry cruelty ok. Does anyone know the name for this type of fallacy? Not False Dichotomy but similar?

npteljes 6y ago
Whataboutism I think. Bringing up another issue, to distract from the current issue.