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> so they could pay rent. this may be true, but your implication is unnecessarily sinister. these organizations have balances sheets and budgets too. like ever

> so they could pay rent. this may be true, but your implication is unnecessarily sinister. these organizations have balances sheets and budgets too. like everyone else in the whole world, their business model probably isnt equipped to handle an epidemic. something has to give. maybe it shouldn't have been this, but the premise that colleges dont need money to survive is foolish.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
A place in the university course, or a place in halls-of-residence, though?
black_puppydog 6y ago
1. in other places, the money that colleges need to survive (especially when they don't actually have to operate fully) does not come out of students' pockets. That's a choice that the UK (and US...) political process has arrived at. 2. You're making it sound like "but my business model depends on it" is somehow a valid excuse to put people into physical danger and through pretty much guaranteed psychological stress.
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pjc50 6y ago
"My business model requires me to lock the fire exits" is something that people have been (rightly) jailed for. Universities should never have been fully privatized in the first place.
aaomidi 6y ago
Holy shit the mental gymnastics with this. > It's okay for a business to knowingly fuck people over because they need money.
bigdollopenergy 6y ago
Something does have to give. Why you think it should be the students is a total mystery to me though. The university is irresponsibly forcing the students to come on campus to study (a health risk) so they have to pay rent and is desperately trying to restrict their movement/freedoms to decrease the likelihood/speed at which the government shuts the whole thing down and sends everyone home. The students certainly aren't getting what they paid for. Far from it. There's been a material change in the "product" they are getting and they should be released from the contract from it on those grounds. If the university can't survive without the rental income and the government wants to save it, then they can do that, but it's not the students responsibility to willingly be defrauded to ensure the financial stability of an institution they have no stake in.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago

A place in the university course, or a place in halls-of-residence, though?

black_puppydog 6y ago

1. in other places, the money that colleges need to survive (especially when they don't actually have to operate fully) does not come out of students' pockets. That's a choice that the UK (and US...) political process has arrived at. 2. You're making it sound like "but my business model depends on it" is somehow a valid excuse to put people into physical danger and through pretty much guaranteed psychological stress.

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pjc50 6y ago

"My business model requires me to lock the fire exits" is something that people have been (rightly) jailed for. Universities should never have been fully privatized in the first place.

aaomidi 6y ago

Holy shit the mental gymnastics with this. > It's okay for a business to knowingly fuck people over because they need money.

bigdollopenergy 6y ago

Something does have to give. Why you think it should be the students is a total mystery to me though. The university is irresponsibly forcing the students to come on campus to study (a health risk) so they have to pay rent and is desperately trying to restrict their movement/freedoms to decrease the likelihood/speed at which the government shuts the whole thing down and sends everyone home. The students certainly aren't getting what they paid for. Far from it. There's been a material change in the "product" they are getting and they should be released from the contract from it on those grounds. If the university can't survive without the rental income and the government wants to save it, then they can do that, but it's not the students responsibility to willingly be defrauded to ensure the financial stability of an institution they have no stake in.