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Not exactly. Read past the headline. Here's the exchange they based their decision on: > Maxey: Just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two

Not exactly. Read past the headline. Here's the exchange they based their decision on: > Maxey: Just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia. These were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated, if you will, with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors. > Bannon: That’s how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The revolution wasn’t some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war. Questionable, yes, but not an overt call to violence like the headline implies.

tsomctl 6y ago
Bannon called for the beheading of Dr. Fauci: https://boingboing.net/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-calls-for-beheading-dr-fauci-and-fbi-director-wray.html https://boingboing.net/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-calls-for-beh...
- rglover 6y ago
  That one is far more egregious, but still not a call to violence.
  - hristov 6y ago
    Really? Is it a call for a non-violent beheading?
  - brandmeyer 6y ago
    What definition of "call to violence" are you using where posting the severed heads of your enemies doesn't qualify?
    - rglover 6y ago
      I would think a call to violence meant "hey people, go do this ____." It's certainly tactless and a really dumb thing to say and I understand why they took him down. Edit: yes. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 "Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct" I think he should be investigated for that claim, but that headline reads like he was telling people to go commit a crime. Edit 2: Recommended reading. https://www.amazon.com/How-Judges-Think-Pims-Immigration/dp/0674048067 https://www.amazon.com/How-Judges-Think-Pims-Immigration/dp/...
      - viraptor 6y ago
        The line is not that clear. Otherwise "it would be a shame if you didn't pay and your shop burned down" would not be intimidation for protection racket.
      - lumpenprole 6y ago
        "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
  - krapp 6y ago
    Ted Nugent was even less egregious when he said he'd wind up dead or in jail if Obama got a second term, but he still got a visit from the Secret Service over it because people are capable of reading between the lines. In a tense political climate where violence has already broken out in the streets, erring on the side of caution seems like a good idea.
    - rglover 6y ago
      I agree with that and think it'd be reasonable for the Secret Service or FBI to give Bannon a visit.
lifeformed 6y ago
He said that after saying this: "Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci, no, I actually want to go a step farther, but the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I'd actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England. I'd put their heads on pikes, right, I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats, you either get with the program or you're gone."
ineedasername 6y ago
You're completely wrong. That is not what got him banned. He advocated beheading Dr. Fauci & FBI Director Wray and literally putting their heads on pikes in front of the White House. Here's the full quote: Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci. Now I actually want to go a step farther but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I'd actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I'd put the heads on pikes, right, I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannon-and-his-co-host-discuss-beheading-dr-anthony-fauci-and-fbi-director https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannon-and-h...
hristov 6y ago
I am reading past the headline and it seems that you flat out ignored the part where the article said that Bannon called for Trump to behead two government officials.
adamsea 6y ago
He kinda also threatened Dr. Fauci and the FBI director right before that. Kind of puts the whole revolution/civil war comment in context. By itself innocuous, in the context of the conversation and w/Bannon being a white supremacist, questionable. "Former presidential advisor and right-wing pundit Steve Bannon had his show suspended from Twitter and an episode removed by YouTube after calling for violence against FBI director Christopher Wray and the government’s leading pandemic expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Bannon, speaking with co-host Jack Maxey, was discussing what Trump should do in a hypothetical second term. He suggested firing Wray and Fauci, but then went further, saying “I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats.” This may strike one at first as mere hyperbole — one may say “we want his head on a platter” and not really be suggesting they actually behead anyone. But the conversation continued and seemed to be more in earnest than it first appeared: Maxey: Just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia. These were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated, if you will, with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors. Bannon: That’s how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The revolution wasn’t some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war."

tsomctl 6y ago

Bannon called for the beheading of Dr. Fauci: https://boingboing.net/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-calls-for-beheading-dr-fauci-and-fbi-director-wray.html https://boingboing.net/2020/11/05/steve-bannon-calls-for-beh...

rglover 6y ago
That one is far more egregious, but still not a call to violence.
- hristov 6y ago
  Really? Is it a call for a non-violent beheading?
- brandmeyer 6y ago
  What definition of "call to violence" are you using where posting the severed heads of your enemies doesn't qualify?
  - rglover 6y ago
    I would think a call to violence meant "hey people, go do this ____." It's certainly tactless and a really dumb thing to say and I understand why they took him down. Edit: yes. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 "Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct" I think he should be investigated for that claim, but that headline reads like he was telling people to go commit a crime. Edit 2: Recommended reading. https://www.amazon.com/How-Judges-Think-Pims-Immigration/dp/0674048067 https://www.amazon.com/How-Judges-Think-Pims-Immigration/dp/...
    - viraptor 6y ago
      The line is not that clear. Otherwise "it would be a shame if you didn't pay and your shop burned down" would not be intimidation for protection racket.
    - lumpenprole 6y ago
      "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
- krapp 6y ago
  Ted Nugent was even less egregious when he said he'd wind up dead or in jail if Obama got a second term, but he still got a visit from the Secret Service over it because people are capable of reading between the lines. In a tense political climate where violence has already broken out in the streets, erring on the side of caution seems like a good idea.
  - rglover 6y ago
    I agree with that and think it'd be reasonable for the Secret Service or FBI to give Bannon a visit.

lifeformed 6y ago

He said that after saying this: "Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci, no, I actually want to go a step farther, but the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I'd actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England. I'd put their heads on pikes, right, I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats, you either get with the program or you're gone."

ineedasername 6y ago

You're completely wrong. That is not what got him banned. He advocated beheading Dr. Fauci & FBI Director Wray and literally putting their heads on pikes in front of the White House. Here's the full quote: Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci. Now I actually want to go a step farther but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I'd actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I'd put the heads on pikes, right, I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannon-and-his-co-host-discuss-beheading-dr-anthony-fauci-and-fbi-director https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannon-and-h...

hristov 6y ago

I am reading past the headline and it seems that you flat out ignored the part where the article said that Bannon called for Trump to behead two government officials.

adamsea 6y ago

He kinda also threatened Dr. Fauci and the FBI director right before that. Kind of puts the whole revolution/civil war comment in context. By itself innocuous, in the context of the conversation and w/Bannon being a white supremacist, questionable. "Former presidential advisor and right-wing pundit Steve Bannon had his show suspended from Twitter and an episode removed by YouTube after calling for violence against FBI director Christopher Wray and the government’s leading pandemic expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Bannon, speaking with co-host Jack Maxey, was discussing what Trump should do in a hypothetical second term. He suggested firing Wray and Fauci, but then went further, saying “I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats.” This may strike one at first as mere hyperbole — one may say “we want his head on a platter” and not really be suggesting they actually behead anyone. But the conversation continued and seemed to be more in earnest than it first appeared: Maxey: Just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia. These were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated, if you will, with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors. Bannon: That’s how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The revolution wasn’t some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war."