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Maybe I am being dumb (Finnish application officers, do not read this) but I dont understand what the offer is. A 90 days business visa? Forget it, I just read

Maybe I am being dumb (Finnish application officers, do not read this) but I dont understand what the offer is. A 90 days business visa? Forget it, I just read this: > The “90-Day Finn” program is funded by the Helsinki Business Hub and is specifically targeted at “technical professionals” on the west coast of the United States. Hub will fund the “90-day free transfer package to Helsinki” and invite children. This an attempt to "steal" SV engineers, I am not in that category, so back at the end of the line for me.

Rebelgecko 6y ago
It also sounds like they're setting up housing and networking opportunities for the 90 days
- cambalache 6y ago
  Networking is fine,but unless they will provide housing (they wont) I could manage to get housing by myself, not much value there.
  - wolfram74 6y ago
    "We will provide selected applicants with a free 90-day relocation package for the entire family. We’ll arrange your ||housing||, daycare, schooling, everything you need – the real deal, just like a Finn." It looks like quite the package.
    - shard 6y ago
      Right, they will arrange housing (find a place you can rent) but not provide housing (pay the rent on a place for you).
    - freehunter 6y ago
      In other links here it looks like they just give you housing for 90 days until you’ve bought your own house/apartment. Which, at the average cost of an apartment in Helsinki, would save you about $3000-$7000. It helps a bit, but not super significant if you’re used to SV housing prices. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Helsinki https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Helsinki
      - eru 6y ago
        Don't underestimate the convenience factor. It can save a lot of hassle, if you know that your first 90 days of accommodation in a foreign country with a strange language is taken care of.
        trevyn 6y ago
        I'm willing to bet that Airbnb monthly is just as convenient.
        eru 6y ago
        If still legal, yes. But they also sort out some other paperwork, I assume.
    - peteretep 6y ago
      This hinges on if arranging and paying for are the same thing or not, and I suspect they’re not.
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leafmeal 6y ago
If it's any consolation, it doesn't seem very clear to me either.
vardhanw 6y ago
The Terms and conditions [1] provides some details. [1] https://www.helsinkibusinesshub.fi/90-day-finn-terms-and-conditions/ https://www.helsinkibusinesshub.fi/90-day-finn-terms-and-con...
- quickthrower2 6y ago
  Also "Helsinki Business Hub will choose a maximum 15 participants", so honestly, this ain't too exciting if you are not from the US.
dvtrn 6y ago
Have I perhaps missed the explanation on this site, but why specifically west coast?
- fctorial 6y ago
  Silicon valley
Zanneth 6y ago
Kinda ironic that the site and a bunch of commenters on here are boasting about how egalitarian Finland is, and yet this is an opportunity to temporarily relocate that is only offered to top Silicon Valley talent.
- cambalache 6y ago
  The "global lower middle class" is screwed in that sense, I know it because I belong to it. If you are from a rich country or have elite qualifications, the world is your oyster. If you are at the other spectrum and come from an impoverished, war-torn country you could get asylum if you play your cards well. It's an incredibly shitty situation of course, but there is some chance. If you are from a poor, but mostly peaceful country and you have skills but not Ivy League/SV brand-recognition level, you are pretty much "screwed".

Rebelgecko 6y ago

It also sounds like they're setting up housing and networking opportunities for the 90 days

cambalache 6y ago
Networking is fine,but unless they will provide housing (they wont) I could manage to get housing by myself, not much value there.
- wolfram74 6y ago
  "We will provide selected applicants with a free 90-day relocation package for the entire family. We’ll arrange your ||housing||, daycare, schooling, everything you need – the real deal, just like a Finn." It looks like quite the package.
  - shard 6y ago
    Right, they will arrange housing (find a place you can rent) but not provide housing (pay the rent on a place for you).
  - freehunter 6y ago
    In other links here it looks like they just give you housing for 90 days until you’ve bought your own house/apartment. Which, at the average cost of an apartment in Helsinki, would save you about $3000-$7000. It helps a bit, but not super significant if you’re used to SV housing prices. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Helsinki https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Helsinki
    - eru 6y ago
      Don't underestimate the convenience factor. It can save a lot of hassle, if you know that your first 90 days of accommodation in a foreign country with a strange language is taken care of.
      - trevyn 6y ago
        I'm willing to bet that Airbnb monthly is just as convenient.
        eru 6y ago
        If still legal, yes. But they also sort out some other paperwork, I assume.
  - peteretep 6y ago
    This hinges on if arranging and paying for are the same thing or not, and I suspect they’re not.

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leafmeal 6y ago

If it's any consolation, it doesn't seem very clear to me either.

vardhanw 6y ago

The Terms and conditions [1] provides some details. [1] https://www.helsinkibusinesshub.fi/90-day-finn-terms-and-conditions/ https://www.helsinkibusinesshub.fi/90-day-finn-terms-and-con...

quickthrower2 6y ago
Also "Helsinki Business Hub will choose a maximum 15 participants", so honestly, this ain't too exciting if you are not from the US.

dvtrn 6y ago

Have I perhaps missed the explanation on this site, but why specifically west coast?

fctorial 6y ago
Silicon valley

Zanneth 6y ago

Kinda ironic that the site and a bunch of commenters on here are boasting about how egalitarian Finland is, and yet this is an opportunity to temporarily relocate that is only offered to top Silicon Valley talent.

cambalache 6y ago
The "global lower middle class" is screwed in that sense, I know it because I belong to it. If you are from a rich country or have elite qualifications, the world is your oyster. If you are at the other spectrum and come from an impoverished, war-torn country you could get asylum if you play your cards well. It's an incredibly shitty situation of course, but there is some chance. If you are from a poor, but mostly peaceful country and you have skills but not Ivy League/SV brand-recognition level, you are pretty much "screwed".