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Will this eventually replace the deb package, over which I have full control of updates?

by curt15 6y ago

pizza234 6y ago
This is actually a very critical concern, compared to other programs in general. Thunderbird must have changed the WebExtensions APIs after v68 (based on what I see in the addons compatibility). Several extensions in the top list by users, are not compatible with v78¹. Thunderbird snap users are literally going to wake up one day, and find that [some of] their extensions are not working anymore. ¹=https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/?sort=users https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/... edit: Removed Lightning reference, as it's not 100% clear if it will be bundled with TB.
- bayindirh 6y ago
  Lightning is bundled with 78. At least Debian's packages integrate that. I use a couple of online calendars with it and, it works very stable.
bayindirh 6y ago
For Debian it's almost certainly no. For Ubuntu, it's possibly yes. I'm not sure that it's too late to revolt against Snap in general but, as far as I can see, people don't care if it works somehow.
- mbushey 6y ago
  Ubuntu/Snap simply does not work anymore. The sandboxing blocks all access to remote shares. I run a ZFS NFS file server for my data, and snap is blocking this. I'm in the process of switching all my Linux machines over to Arch. Also on one of my Ubuntu machines Chrome, which is a snap, seqfaults on startup. To me, Ubuntu is dead/dying other than in a docker container.
  - bayindirh 6y ago
    A semi serious question: Why not Debian? On the other hand, the biggest problem with this new technologies is they are strongly opinionated about the design choices they make. Instead of being flexible, they apply the ideas on their users with great force and, this is what bothers me most. I'm not fundamentally against Snap/AppImage/FlatPak et. al. Also, I'm not fundamentally against the operating principles of Canonical per se but, some of their choices and the way they decide to apply (read: somewhat force) these choices make me stay away from them. They have a Google-esque "We made the right choice and the only choice made by us is right" vibe and, this is not helping anyone on the long run IMHO.

Will this eventually replace the deb package, over which I have full control of updates?

by curt15 6y ago

Will this eventually replace the deb package, over which I have full control of updates?

This is actually a very critical concern, compared to other programs in general. Thunderbird must have changed the WebExtensions APIs after v68 (based on what I see in the addons compatibility). Several extensions in the top list by users, are not compatible with v78¹. Thunderbird snap users are literally going to wake up one day, and find that [some of] their extensions are not working anymore. ¹=https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/?sort=users https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/extensions/... edit: Removed Lightning reference, as it's not 100% clear if it will be bundled with TB.

bayindirh 6y ago
Lightning is bundled with 78. At least Debian's packages integrate that. I use a couple of online calendars with it and, it works very stable.

bayindirh 6y ago

For Debian it's almost certainly no. For Ubuntu, it's possibly yes. I'm not sure that it's too late to revolt against Snap in general but, as far as I can see, people don't care if it works somehow.

mbushey 6y ago
Ubuntu/Snap simply does not work anymore. The sandboxing blocks all access to remote shares. I run a ZFS NFS file server for my data, and snap is blocking this. I'm in the process of switching all my Linux machines over to Arch. Also on one of my Ubuntu machines Chrome, which is a snap, seqfaults on startup. To me, Ubuntu is dead/dying other than in a docker container.
- bayindirh 6y ago
  A semi serious question: Why not Debian? On the other hand, the biggest problem with this new technologies is they are strongly opinionated about the design choices they make. Instead of being flexible, they apply the ideas on their users with great force and, this is what bothers me most. I'm not fundamentally against Snap/AppImage/FlatPak et. al. Also, I'm not fundamentally against the operating principles of Canonical per se but, some of their choices and the way they decide to apply (read: somewhat force) these choices make me stay away from them. They have a Google-esque "We made the right choice and the only choice made by us is right" vibe and, this is not helping anyone on the long run IMHO.