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And the new cpus are already sold out and being scalped on eBay. This is starting to become a problem. It's happening to the new Nvidia GPUs, and the new AMD C

And the new cpus are already sold out and being scalped on eBay. This is starting to become a problem. It's happening to the new Nvidia GPUs, and the new AMD CPUs, and it will probably happen to the new Radeons later this month. At this point it will probably be impossible to purchase any of these products at retail before January. I'm not sure what Nvidia, AMD, and their retailers can do about this situation, but it's pretty bad.

Thaxll 6y ago
It's very frustrating, they said that this would not happen btw
- tgtweak 6y ago
  I'd like the manufacturers to disclose how many they built and sold. These launches feel very limited. For things to sell out in seconds is not normal.
vizzier 6y ago
Scalpers are a symptom of an item having higher value than the retailer is choosing to price it at. That higher value right now is provided by a lack of supply. Or, possibly the unusually high demand during covid. The fix is that we just need way more stock. In Canada we're entirely sold out up here, but we maybe had a hundred units total in the high end SKUs (based on discussions on http://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada http://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada.
lagadu 6y ago
If an item is very desirable it'll always sell out, just give it a couple months and stocks will eventually stabilize.
zanny 6y ago
They should be releasing these products at auction until demand falls to their MSRP. The amount of money Nvidia, AMD, etc leave on the table looks substantial. I could easily have seen the bidding wars on the first supply of 3000 series GPUs having people buying them for $1500+ easily with the 3070 selling for $1k at least.
- dharmab 6y ago
  The hardware manufacturers need to get their products into the hands of actual end users to win collaboration with software developers. Also, most of the high bidding on the 3000 series were anti-scalper bots putting in bids they had no intention of honoring.
- p1necone 6y ago
  I don't think AMD and NVidia want their products to only be available to the very wealthy.
- shajznnckfke 6y ago
  Auctions feel unfair to consumers. The free marketing hype from the product selling out may be worth a lot more to them than selling a few consumer-grade units for high prices at auction. It’s possible AMD knowingly targeted stock levels and prices to cause the sellout. For the real high-value users they have completely different products for sale to capture that margin at even higher prices (Epyc, Tesla).
jayflux 6y ago
It was no where near as bad as NVidia's launch, I was watching the AMD subreddit during launch and lot of people got one. There were many shops which had them on sale. I even saw some on sale myself but didn't buy one. So I don't think it was a paper launch this time around.
- acidbaseextract 6y ago
  It was very model specific. 5950Xs and 5900Xs were gone within a few seconds, 5800Xs were up for a few minutes, and 5600Xs were available for almost an hour in some cases. This aligns with reports of retailer inventory, where availability of high end models was extremely limited, but there were many more of the mid-tier models.
fomine3 6y ago
Just curious, why scalping for PC parts wasn't a huge thing until 2020?
- account42 6y ago
  I think one problem this year specifically is that the releases have gotten a lot closer to the end of the year where lots of people want to upgrade/buy gifts before the holidays. Add some supply issues due to COVID and this is what you get.

Thaxll 6y ago

It's very frustrating, they said that this would not happen btw

tgtweak 6y ago
I'd like the manufacturers to disclose how many they built and sold. These launches feel very limited. For things to sell out in seconds is not normal.

vizzier 6y ago

Scalpers are a symptom of an item having higher value than the retailer is choosing to price it at. That higher value right now is provided by a lack of supply. Or, possibly the unusually high demand during covid. The fix is that we just need way more stock. In Canada we're entirely sold out up here, but we maybe had a hundred units total in the high end SKUs (based on discussions on http://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada http://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada.

lagadu 6y ago

If an item is very desirable it'll always sell out, just give it a couple months and stocks will eventually stabilize.

zanny 6y ago

They should be releasing these products at auction until demand falls to their MSRP. The amount of money Nvidia, AMD, etc leave on the table looks substantial. I could easily have seen the bidding wars on the first supply of 3000 series GPUs having people buying them for $1500+ easily with the 3070 selling for $1k at least.

dharmab 6y ago
The hardware manufacturers need to get their products into the hands of actual end users to win collaboration with software developers. Also, most of the high bidding on the 3000 series were anti-scalper bots putting in bids they had no intention of honoring.
p1necone 6y ago
I don't think AMD and NVidia want their products to only be available to the very wealthy.
shajznnckfke 6y ago
Auctions feel unfair to consumers. The free marketing hype from the product selling out may be worth a lot more to them than selling a few consumer-grade units for high prices at auction. It’s possible AMD knowingly targeted stock levels and prices to cause the sellout. For the real high-value users they have completely different products for sale to capture that margin at even higher prices (Epyc, Tesla).

jayflux 6y ago

It was no where near as bad as NVidia's launch, I was watching the AMD subreddit during launch and lot of people got one. There were many shops which had them on sale. I even saw some on sale myself but didn't buy one. So I don't think it was a paper launch this time around.

acidbaseextract 6y ago
It was very model specific. 5950Xs and 5900Xs were gone within a few seconds, 5800Xs were up for a few minutes, and 5600Xs were available for almost an hour in some cases. This aligns with reports of retailer inventory, where availability of high end models was extremely limited, but there were many more of the mid-tier models.

fomine3 6y ago

Just curious, why scalping for PC parts wasn't a huge thing until 2020?

account42 6y ago
I think one problem this year specifically is that the releases have gotten a lot closer to the end of the year where lots of people want to upgrade/buy gifts before the holidays. Add some supply issues due to COVID and this is what you get.