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What's "ancient"/"vintage" nowadays? I thought the common meaning was "ceased to be commonly used before I was born". Do we really have people young enough here

by jolmg 6y ago

What's "ancient"/"vintage" nowadays? I thought the common meaning was "ceased to be commonly used before I was born". Do we really have people young enough here that were born after 32-bit computers ceased to be commonly available on the market? Wasn't that like just 10 years ago?

bobthepanda 6y ago
Vintage is anything more than 20 y/o, so cassette tapes are vintage. I wouldn’t really consider 32 bit vintage.
- karmakaze 6y ago
  Right, currently 32-bit is only obsolete and unsupported. It'll be a while longer for it to be coveted as vintage.
unethical_ban 6y ago
There are multiple common meanings, none of which (for me) defining it as "before I existed". Nor is it a set time. iPhone 5c is vintage at nine years old, defined by Apple. When was the last 32 bit x86 processor manufactured? AMD/Intel, the only two worth really discussing due to volume, have made 64-bit processors for 15 years or so. In computing terms, that is an age.
- jolmg 6y ago
  > When was the last 32 bit x86 processor manufactured? You could still buy brand-new 32-bit netbooks from BestBuy 10 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20100817144812/http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Netbooks/All-Netbooks/pcmcat164200050013.c?id=pcmcat164200050013 https://web.archive.org/web/20100817144812/http://www.bestbu...
- Already__Taken 6y ago
  Some 32-bit only intel atom still show up sometimes.
  - zozbot234 6y ago
    Intel Atom with _32-bit EFI_ is relatively common, but these will in fact run a full 64-bit OS (not windows though). Early Intel Atom actually had no 64 bit support whatsoever, but I'm not sure if that kind of hardware still gets manufactured.
heelix 6y ago
For me, this means my Eden 5000 with a fanless C3 processor continues to be my longest running computer that sees continual usage for source code control. I think 2002/2003? CPU is 32-bit, so still chugging along with Gentoo these days. https://i.imgur.com/W1BTU4u.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W1BTU4u.jpg

by jolmg 6y ago

bobthepanda 6y ago

Vintage is anything more than 20 y/o, so cassette tapes are vintage. I wouldn’t really consider 32 bit vintage.

karmakaze 6y ago
Right, currently 32-bit is only obsolete and unsupported. It'll be a while longer for it to be coveted as vintage.

unethical_ban 6y ago

There are multiple common meanings, none of which (for me) defining it as "before I existed". Nor is it a set time. iPhone 5c is vintage at nine years old, defined by Apple. When was the last 32 bit x86 processor manufactured? AMD/Intel, the only two worth really discussing due to volume, have made 64-bit processors for 15 years or so. In computing terms, that is an age.

jolmg 6y ago
> When was the last 32 bit x86 processor manufactured? You could still buy brand-new 32-bit netbooks from BestBuy 10 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20100817144812/http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Netbooks/All-Netbooks/pcmcat164200050013.c?id=pcmcat164200050013 https://web.archive.org/web/20100817144812/http://www.bestbu...
Already__Taken 6y ago
Some 32-bit only intel atom still show up sometimes.
- zozbot234 6y ago
  Intel Atom with _32-bit EFI_ is relatively common, but these will in fact run a full 64-bit OS (not windows though). Early Intel Atom actually had no 64 bit support whatsoever, but I'm not sure if that kind of hardware still gets manufactured.

heelix 6y ago

For me, this means my Eden 5000 with a fanless C3 processor continues to be my longest running computer that sees continual usage for source code control. I think 2002/2003? CPU is 32-bit, so still chugging along with Gentoo these days. https://i.imgur.com/W1BTU4u.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W1BTU4u.jpg