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If you plan to be a professional software engineer, then I recommend just paying for the best tools. The price of one hour of an engineer's salary (give or take

If you plan to be a professional software engineer, then I recommend just paying for the best tools. The price of one hour of an engineer's salary (give or take) can pay for the entire IntelliJ suite for a year.

sippeangelo 6y ago
Sheesh, I wish I was worth $500/hr. I guess I'm not professional enough.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  IntelliJ is $149 for a personal license.
  - _xoo 6y ago
    That's still more like a couple of hours :)
  - bredren 6y ago
    That's for the full suite, too. Pycharm covers a lot of web dev beyond python and personal is only $89 first year, $71 second and $53 third.
    - jerrycruncher 6y ago
      And you don't need to continue your subscription unless you want continued updates. My PyCharm 'subscription' lapsed around two years ago, and I'm only planning on purchasing a new fallback license for the upcoming 2020.3 release because their excellent vim-mode plugin finally supports jump lists, but requires a newer version than the one I originally paid for - and I'm honestly happy to pay them again.
      - ta988 6y ago
        And you will love the new version! So much changed these last too years.
  - mdaniel 6y ago
    And they allow one to use the personal license at work, so long as no one at home is simultaneously using that license (I'm paraphrasing, and also cognizant that "at work" and "at home" now mean something radically different than this time last year) : https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-I-use-my-personal-license-at-work-and-at-home- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-... (going up one level has all kind of interesting other licensing FAQs) I actually still do that even though work bought me an IJ license because my personal _suite_ license covers more tools
    - SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
      Same. I like using the tools for any personal projects, and it's worth the price for the individual use subscription.
- SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
  "All Products Pack" for individuals is $250/yr, first year, dropping to $200 for year 2 and $150 for year 3+. Still quite a lot more than I make in an hour, but definitely not $500. Are you looking at the organization pricing?
jaster 6y ago
The definition of "best" is often subjective and may boil down to familiarity. On the other hand, betting on open-source tooling may be a good way to increase the chances that your "best" tools will still be available in the future.
ptato 6y ago
give or take 14 hours for me!
jlelse 6y ago
For work I currently have to use an old Eclipse version in a slow virtual desktop infrastructure. But yeah I know it's worth paying for good tools.

sippeangelo 6y ago

Sheesh, I wish I was worth $500/hr. I guess I'm not professional enough.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
IntelliJ is $149 for a personal license.
- _xoo 6y ago
  That's still more like a couple of hours :)
- bredren 6y ago
  That's for the full suite, too. Pycharm covers a lot of web dev beyond python and personal is only $89 first year, $71 second and $53 third.
  - jerrycruncher 6y ago
    And you don't need to continue your subscription unless you want continued updates. My PyCharm 'subscription' lapsed around two years ago, and I'm only planning on purchasing a new fallback license for the upcoming 2020.3 release because their excellent vim-mode plugin finally supports jump lists, but requires a newer version than the one I originally paid for - and I'm honestly happy to pay them again.
    - ta988 6y ago
      And you will love the new version! So much changed these last too years.
- mdaniel 6y ago
  And they allow one to use the personal license at work, so long as no one at home is simultaneously using that license (I'm paraphrasing, and also cognizant that "at work" and "at home" now mean something radically different than this time last year) : https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-I-use-my-personal-license-at-work-and-at-home- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-... (going up one level has all kind of interesting other licensing FAQs) I actually still do that even though work bought me an IJ license because my personal _suite_ license covers more tools
  - SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
    Same. I like using the tools for any personal projects, and it's worth the price for the individual use subscription.
SAI_Peregrinus 6y ago
"All Products Pack" for individuals is $250/yr, first year, dropping to $200 for year 2 and $150 for year 3+. Still quite a lot more than I make in an hour, but definitely not $500. Are you looking at the organization pricing?

jaster 6y ago

The definition of "best" is often subjective and may boil down to familiarity. On the other hand, betting on open-source tooling may be a good way to increase the chances that your "best" tools will still be available in the future.

ptato 6y ago

give or take 14 hours for me!

jlelse 6y ago

For work I currently have to use an old Eclipse version in a slow virtual desktop infrastructure. But yeah I know it's worth paying for good tools.