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Sorry about this everyone, we're trying our hardest to boot our infrastructure back into action. I'm off to get a hammer. Updates via our twitter @anandtech

mobilio 6y ago
No worries!
MadSudaca 6y ago
You should or should not start using AMD Zen 3 processors in your infrastructure next time to avoid this problem. I don't know.
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eptcyka 6y ago
A somewhat unrelated request, but please hear me out. Would it be possible to add X-Plane 11 to the CPU and GPU benchmarks? It is easily scriptable and seems to be underrepresented in benchmarking space, but maybe there's a good reason for that. Regardless, I'm trying to convince my dad he should be building an AMD/Nvidia flight-sim machine instead of going with Intel, but there really isn't any good data to back up my claims.
- bronco21016 6y ago
  LTT just did his Zen 3 review and had a few Flight Sim 2020 benchmarks. https://youtu.be/iZBIeM2zE-I https://youtu.be/iZBIeM2zE-I In short, even a 5600X will exceed an Intel 10900k.
- Bayart 6y ago
  Can MS Flight Simulator 2020 be used as a proxy ? Because it's a pretty common benchmark for the current generation.
- justsid 6y ago
  Hah, I’d love to see that, although I’m also a developer on X-Plane and therefore biased. If anyone at Anandtech wants some help with setting that up, they can reach me at [username] at x-plane.com. X-Plane is indeed super scriptable, which is used by various IHV’s to auto test new drivers and hardware. We also use it extensively internally in our CI testing suite. Edit: To the OP, I can provide performance benchmarks from an i7-6700k vs Ryzen 3900X for your Dad. It’s unfortunately not super apples for apples. What I can say is that the massive L3 cache is doing wonders for X-Plane, and the greater core count is definitely going to be more relevant in the future as well.
  - enimodas 6y ago
    How's office morale there after the launch of msfs 2020? Or does rising interest in flightsims have positive effects on xplane too?
    - Alupis 6y ago
      It probably depends what the user wants - a game or a simulator. FS2020 is pretty - lots of eye candy, but the flight model simulation isn't as realistic as X-Plane, which historically has put correctness above eye candy. FS2020 is also very buggy still (including crash to desktop after restarting a flight, etc), although getting better. That, and there are not many plugins, add-ons and aircraft models available yet for FS2020, although it's growing. The default built-in aircraft have many missing features, buttons, autopilot modes, etc - which prevent folks from using these as "study level" simulations. As of right now, serious simmers still use X-Plane/Prepar3d, but maybe that changes as updates roll out for FS2020.
    - justsid 6y ago
      Honestly quite good. Like Alupis mentioned, X-Plane might have a slightly different target audience than FS 2020. That being said, X-Plane 11 is also almost 4 years old now and I'd hope a sim released in 2020 beats it graphically. We recently completed our move away from OpenGL, which served as the base graphics library for a good 20 or so years. It took forever, partially due to how deeply ingrained GL-isms were in the code base. But we are now all fancy and modern with Vulkan and Metal, which allows us to do some really cool and long overdue things with the sim that were previously almost if not completely possible. So that's quite exciting for me, not to mention that it got quite a bit faster in the process. I can't speak for the other parts of the sim since I almost exclusively work on the graphics and game engine bits of X-Plane, but I think most everyone in the company is pretty excited for the future. Also, and this is purely from a flight sim user perspective, competition is always good. Just like it's good if AMD and Intel compete with each other. The only winner is the end user.
- proverbialbunny 6y ago
  I suspect the 6900 xt will help Flight Sim out quite a bit, but there are no benchmarks yet. It may be worth it to tell your father to wait a week or two before buying a gpu, and in the mean time just use an old gpu. (Maybe I'm saying the obvious here, though?)
- deagle50 6y ago
  Phoronix has X-Plane benchmarks in their review. Massive improvement over Zen 2 and ahead of the 10900k which was a surprise. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-5900-gaming&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-59...
mcraiha 6y ago
CDN issue?

mobilio 6y ago

No worries!

MadSudaca 6y ago

You should or should not start using AMD Zen 3 processors in your infrastructure next time to avoid this problem. I don't know.

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eptcyka 6y ago

A somewhat unrelated request, but please hear me out. Would it be possible to add X-Plane 11 to the CPU and GPU benchmarks? It is easily scriptable and seems to be underrepresented in benchmarking space, but maybe there's a good reason for that. Regardless, I'm trying to convince my dad he should be building an AMD/Nvidia flight-sim machine instead of going with Intel, but there really isn't any good data to back up my claims.

bronco21016 6y ago
LTT just did his Zen 3 review and had a few Flight Sim 2020 benchmarks. https://youtu.be/iZBIeM2zE-I https://youtu.be/iZBIeM2zE-I In short, even a 5600X will exceed an Intel 10900k.
Bayart 6y ago
Can MS Flight Simulator 2020 be used as a proxy ? Because it's a pretty common benchmark for the current generation.
justsid 6y ago
Hah, I’d love to see that, although I’m also a developer on X-Plane and therefore biased. If anyone at Anandtech wants some help with setting that up, they can reach me at [username] at x-plane.com. X-Plane is indeed super scriptable, which is used by various IHV’s to auto test new drivers and hardware. We also use it extensively internally in our CI testing suite. Edit: To the OP, I can provide performance benchmarks from an i7-6700k vs Ryzen 3900X for your Dad. It’s unfortunately not super apples for apples. What I can say is that the massive L3 cache is doing wonders for X-Plane, and the greater core count is definitely going to be more relevant in the future as well.
- enimodas 6y ago
  How's office morale there after the launch of msfs 2020? Or does rising interest in flightsims have positive effects on xplane too?
  - Alupis 6y ago
    It probably depends what the user wants - a game or a simulator. FS2020 is pretty - lots of eye candy, but the flight model simulation isn't as realistic as X-Plane, which historically has put correctness above eye candy. FS2020 is also very buggy still (including crash to desktop after restarting a flight, etc), although getting better. That, and there are not many plugins, add-ons and aircraft models available yet for FS2020, although it's growing. The default built-in aircraft have many missing features, buttons, autopilot modes, etc - which prevent folks from using these as "study level" simulations. As of right now, serious simmers still use X-Plane/Prepar3d, but maybe that changes as updates roll out for FS2020.
  - justsid 6y ago
    Honestly quite good. Like Alupis mentioned, X-Plane might have a slightly different target audience than FS 2020. That being said, X-Plane 11 is also almost 4 years old now and I'd hope a sim released in 2020 beats it graphically. We recently completed our move away from OpenGL, which served as the base graphics library for a good 20 or so years. It took forever, partially due to how deeply ingrained GL-isms were in the code base. But we are now all fancy and modern with Vulkan and Metal, which allows us to do some really cool and long overdue things with the sim that were previously almost if not completely possible. So that's quite exciting for me, not to mention that it got quite a bit faster in the process. I can't speak for the other parts of the sim since I almost exclusively work on the graphics and game engine bits of X-Plane, but I think most everyone in the company is pretty excited for the future. Also, and this is purely from a flight sim user perspective, competition is always good. Just like it's good if AMD and Intel compete with each other. The only winner is the end user.
proverbialbunny 6y ago
I suspect the 6900 xt will help Flight Sim out quite a bit, but there are no benchmarks yet. It may be worth it to tell your father to wait a week or two before buying a gpu, and in the mean time just use an old gpu. (Maybe I'm saying the obvious here, though?)
deagle50 6y ago
Phoronix has X-Plane benchmarks in their review. Massive improvement over Zen 2 and ahead of the 10900k which was a surprise. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-5900-gaming&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-59...

mcraiha 6y ago

CDN issue?