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How to wear your baby to work

37 points by sohkamyung 6y ago

k2enemy 6y ago
> Fast forward three years to the birth of my second child earlier this year, and I am a senior postdoc and the president of our local babywearing group. I started wearing number 2 to the lab two weeks after she was born, because I was planning to apply for faculty jobs, and I was worried that taking time off would weaken my applications. Nothing to do with baby wearing (which I am a huge proponent of) but this sounds miserable. Still a postdoc after three years and going in to the lab two weeks after giving birth? We are producing way too many grad students.
- dj_gitmo 6y ago
  Maybe she is delaying applying for a position because she has to literally wear a baby all day? It's difficult to have a job and an infant, so why try and get an even more demanding job when you are in that stage of your life.
- mschuster91 6y ago
  > Still a postdoc after three years and going in to the lab two weeks after giving birth? We are producing way too many grad students. No, you're lacking adequate protection for fresh parents, mothers and fathers alike. At the moment career market forces have the upper hand - they can select for those who are willing to go back to the lab two weeks postpartum. If it were mandatory that all new parents had six months postpartum time off, the situation would be different.
  - k2enemy 6y ago
    > No, you're lacking adequate protection for fresh parents, mothers and fathers alike. Clearly. And universities are not pressured to extend those protections to postdocs because of the oversupply Ph.Ds.
  - butwhydotjpg 6y ago
    Probably not given the dynamics already at play. Paternity leave policies for young economics academics gave men an upper hand, because they were able to use their leave to continue working, but still benefit from the paused tenure clock. (I still support universal parental leave policies.) https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/paternity-leave-policies-are-improving-for-dads-in-academia/ https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/pa...
  - watwut 6y ago
    In academia, it would mean that having child would be career end. Only childless would be able to compete.
  - babywearingmama 6y ago
    I agree it would be different. My friends in Europe get leave and it works for them. It was funny to write this for a British journal because their perspective on caregiving is so different. Pumping is pretty much unheard of in Europe. One reason I was going to work was because I love my research, but if I could have taken six months off, paid, without worrying about career progression, then I probably would have spent a whole lot more of that babywearing time reading novels or going for walks outside.
- peterwoerner 6y ago
  Your conclusion is very true. And academia has a way of putting the pressure on the young workforce (until tenure at 40ish) to work long hours for not much money. And while this is true, it is also worth pointing out that many parents don't want to pause their adult/career goals for 3-6 months because of a new baby. I recently had my first child and while she was little (now 10 months) she would sleep/sit on my lap while I wrote code/ran numerical experiments. I had paternity leave, but I needed to keep working on something because I have an active mind. Now I only worked 4ish hours a day instead of my usual 8-10 (and on side projects instead of work), but I wanted to continue working. My wife who does graphic/web design consulting continued after the birth because it feels good to do adult things. And she didn't stop just because the baby was born she just dropped to 5ish hours a week which has slowly crept back up.
  - jacobolus 6y ago
    3–10 months is easy enough. But you’ll have to be some kind of superhero to keep doing 4–5 hours of focused work a day with a 2–3 year old climbing on you.
    - peterwoerner 6y ago
      I know, she's a 10 months and I can't do my day job (working remotely) with her in the room any more. She especially likes to hit the power button on the computer and pull the power cords out of the outlets.
- babywearingmama 6y ago
  Author here! The subtext to this piece is that this is really about coping with the fact that grad students and postdocs in the US rarely get much parental leave. My institution offers two paid weeks off following childbirth. There’s FMLA but few grad student and postdocs can afford to take unpaid leave. Postdoc parents get very little support and everybody who does it has to find their own way to manage. On top of that is the fact that gaps in your training, if you manage to get leave, hurt your chances of getting a job because it is so uncommon to actually get time off. I chose to do this because I did not find it to be miserable, although it definitely wouldn’t work for everybody. In my field (biology), it is typical to postdoc for 3-6 years so I’m actually on the early side. That postdocs take so long is definitely something that needs to be addressed, though.
  - k2enemy 6y ago
    Thank you for the reply! I'm sorry for the poor leave conditions at your institution. It would be great if you got more (paid) time off and were able to participate in work in a voluntary fashion rather than out of necessity. I was lucky that when my first was born my institution began a policy of a semester of paid leave for the mother or partner. As others have pointed out though, it seems to have a drawback that partners are more likely to use it for extra research time, which tends to raise tenure standards for everyone, including mothers. I think the problem is larger than a policy can address. We need a culture change. And enjoy the baby wearing! Mine are too big now and I miss it dearly.
semi-extrinsic 6y ago
Being a father I cannot comment too much on wearing baby to work. (I would be inclined to say that mothers, even scientist mothers, should be given sufficient parental leave, and that this should be adjusted for in all hiring processes.) But I did frequently wear both our babies in a sling during lots of other activities. Hiking, cross country skiing, strolling around town, doing small projects around the house, or just sitting down to read a book, are all really nice activities to do while wearing baby. All parents should try it. It's a closeness to your baby that is hard to convey if you haven't experienced it.
- jacobolus 6y ago
  One additional tip: if you hold your baby by the thighs and let them learn to balance their torso upright for a few minutes a day starting at about 5 months, within a month or two they should have enough strength/balance to sit up on your shoulders. Personally I found carrying a baby on shoulders a heck of a lot more convenient and comfortable than carrying them on my chest. Also then the whole time you are walking around the baby is further strengthening their muscles and improving their balance.
caffeine 6y ago
I think it's great her work allowed this and to the degree that it is not distracting for others, more workplaces should do so. I've done a lot of coding in 2020 during WFH with my son on my lap and I must say it's very pleasant
- falseAss 6y ago
  I personally find it's hard to focus (read / write code or document) with an 7-month infant around. The baby is constantly asking for parent's attention. I hope things could be better when she become 2-year old, but not really confident on that.
  - jacobolus 6y ago
    For me at least, a 2-year-old took an order of magnitude more attention than a 7-month-old. So I wouldn’t hold your breath. My 4-year-old is finally getting a bit more independent now though. Now that he is able to read books, draw pictures, build things with construction toys, etc. that can keep him independently engaged for a good while with intermittent encouragement.
jeffrallen 6y ago
Baby wearing is also a good way for dads to find their place in baby care. Take the time to learn a couple sling knots. Having the skiing with you is as essentiel as having a towel with you... It is a towel, blanket, picnic blanket, carpet, bed, curtain and sun screen. No single takers allowed!
chrisin2d 6y ago
I have thought about how it would be societally healthy for parents to bring their babies and infants to work. In modern times we treat child-rearing as a private matter to be hidden from public adult life, but it’s long been a communal matter. Admittedly, I’m not great with kids: I don’t have the instincts yet. But I can recognize that childcare isn’t something that someone can schedule as a 4-hour bloc to be one-and-done in the evening (if they can’t or don’t want to hand their child to some hired service): it’s interwoven throughout a parent’s day. Sure, there will be crying and other noises, but I can deal with that. It seems to me artificial to make the 9am-5pm workday so sterile and devoid of organic human activity. I’m young and was a child of a single working mother not very long ago. I remember it being difficult for her. But I am now grown and — in a nod to my mother and other parents like her — favor a parent-friendly work culture.
- jedberg 6y ago
  I think the pandemic has helped in this regard. It seems to be pretty acceptable now to have a quiet kid sitting in your lap for a meeting, or taking a quick second to answer their question. I hope this trend continues past the pandemic.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  I think there was a valid reason for that tendency even if it isn't the only right decision. If your job involves contact with many people (let alone other hazards) it sounds like a very good way to get the young child and everybody else infected as they have a non-fully developed immune system. There is a "too young for daycare" period for one. Cloistering the kids away (always a relative matter) may have developed as a strategy (by conscious or otherwise) to reduce infant mortality when the means were available. Farm work, hunter-gatherers and similiar could qualify as somewhat "bubbled" by low density. Socialization wise I can see it being a win potentially for bonding and experience for the kid certainly assuming it doesn't turn into "crying baby on an airplane but everywhere" situation which would hinder adoption.
jedberg 6y ago
I loved baby wearing. It kept both my hands free. In the first few months, it was perfect because I could reach around her and still type on the keyboard. It also makes traveling with the baby a lot easier because you have your hands free for luggage and whatnot. It was also great exercise to wear the baby while doing physical activity. I once carried her through the streets and museums of Paris for an entire day, and was barely sore. If you're a mom or dad I highly encourage it. In fact, it's a great way for dad to help out while mom's body recovers from birth.
dleslie 6y ago
I've had two babies while working from home at my current gig, and both of them spent plenty of time strapped to me while I bounced on a yoga ball and wrote code. I went with a sling/wrap, and could easily snug a bottle under it for them to nurse on while I worked. (I'm a man, making me ill-equipped to do so otherwise).
prionassembly 6y ago
The article doesn't deliver what the title promises. I'm going to be a dad in mid 21 and want to carry the child with me a lot. I've seen people use entire plastic products they attach to their upper torso that seem great, as (1) I'm not confident on my knot making skills (and I have a lot to learn already) and (2) maybe that stuff distributes the weight around better? But: maybe slings built out of whole cloth like the one shown in the picture are better somehow for parental attachment, and the structured kangaroo carrier is halfway a stroller. Maybe that's not even the tradeoff and there are other health and hazard considerations (e.g. sometimes I get hyperfocused enough that I can forgo lunch; should I carry my child on my chest rather than my back so I'm better aware of her status?) I want to know a lot about this subject and don't even know what questions to ask.
- vondur 6y ago
  I used the Baby Bjorn harness to tote my son around when he was an infant. He really liked it, and I was able to shop and get things done with him. I liked it.
  - mensetmanusman 6y ago
    Baby Bjorn worked for us as well. Had two so that wife and I could have our sizes immediately available. Baby definitely happier, and you can get a lot of chores done :)
- watwut 6y ago
  Your baby will be attached alright no matter what device. They all have you having tons on contact. Plus, most of year you two start warm cloth outside. Yet also, your baby will attach to you even in stroller, don't worry. Wearing baby is super practical definitely, but go with device that is most comfortable to you. The more comfortable, the more you will do it.
- wjnc 6y ago
  My tip would be to find a baby carrying enthusiast, ask for help and just try the cloth solutions first if you think you could be into cloth. My children didn't like being carried (I'm a shoulder carrying father now), but the knots at least where super easy. The knots don't hold the weight, the cloth and the shoulders to. The knots mainly finish the excess cloth so there's not much reason to be afraid that your child will fall due to a bad knot per se. The cloth will sag a lot before that.
gumby 6y ago
What an encouraging article. > I started wearing number 2 to the lab two weeks after she was born, because I was planning to apply for faculty jobs, and I was worried that taking time off would weaken my applications. Also a good way to show you are a "no BS just gets things done" kind of person. Also selects out places that aren't tolerant of anything unusual, but given the number of post docs and faculty positions many may be afraid of this.
pcmaffey 6y ago
I’ve always wanted to invent a baby balloon that worked as a floating replacement for strollers. Not sure about the helium requirements for < 35 lbs...
- tbihl 6y ago
  22.4 L/mol (call it 20). Air is 80% N2, so let's just assume density of air is 30g/mol (N2 is 28, round up for ease of use.) Helium, I think, is monoatomic, so 2g/mol. Thus, load supportability is 28g for every 22.4L. 35lb(454g/lb)(22.4L/28g) = a lot, maybe around 10,000L.
08-15 6y ago
Please do not wear a baby to work. The screaming banshee will prevent your coworkers from getting anything done. If you bring a bring a baby to the office I'm supposed to work in, I will kill you dead. Seriously.
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  Depends on the age. When they are a few months old, they are quite silent. Once, my 3 m.o. sat through my thesis defense without making a sound, ha.
- babywearingmama 6y ago
  Newborns (without colic) are surprisingly quiet and sleep pretty much all day. Also, the snuggles of babywearing help lengthen naps.
- knolax 6y ago
  Is may just be me, but I have never been bothered by babies crying. Like it'll make me feel bad for the baby but it doesn't really make me mad.
mensetmanusman 6y ago
Father of five. Really glad that the baby carriers work for us. I can do chores with the newborn, they rarely cry because they are so interested in floating around/moving, and it definitely increases core strength. My favorite memory is being on a call with a few lawyers while carrying my 5 month old trying to move enough to prevent the baby from being bored/crying while simultaneously explaining our claim structure strategy. That was a tiring 90 minute meeting.
babywearingmama 6y ago
Hi, author here! Happy to answer any babywearing questions or point you to resources. Also it is great to see comments from so many babywearing dads!

37 points by sohkamyung 6y ago

> Fast forward three years to the birth of my second child earlier this year, and I am a senior postdoc and the president of our local babywearing group. I started wearing number 2 to the lab two weeks after she was born, because I was planning to apply for faculty jobs, and I was worried that taking time off would weaken my applications. Nothing to do with baby wearing (which I am a huge proponent of) but this sounds miserable. Still a postdoc after three years and going in to the lab two weeks after giving birth? We are producing way too many grad students.

dj_gitmo 6y ago
Maybe she is delaying applying for a position because she has to literally wear a baby all day? It's difficult to have a job and an infant, so why try and get an even more demanding job when you are in that stage of your life.
mschuster91 6y ago
> Still a postdoc after three years and going in to the lab two weeks after giving birth? We are producing way too many grad students. No, you're lacking adequate protection for fresh parents, mothers and fathers alike. At the moment career market forces have the upper hand - they can select for those who are willing to go back to the lab two weeks postpartum. If it were mandatory that all new parents had six months postpartum time off, the situation would be different.
- k2enemy 6y ago
  > No, you're lacking adequate protection for fresh parents, mothers and fathers alike. Clearly. And universities are not pressured to extend those protections to postdocs because of the oversupply Ph.Ds.
- butwhydotjpg 6y ago
  Probably not given the dynamics already at play. Paternity leave policies for young economics academics gave men an upper hand, because they were able to use their leave to continue working, but still benefit from the paused tenure clock. (I still support universal parental leave policies.) https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/paternity-leave-policies-are-improving-for-dads-in-academia/ https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/pa...
- watwut 6y ago
  In academia, it would mean that having child would be career end. Only childless would be able to compete.
- babywearingmama 6y ago
  I agree it would be different. My friends in Europe get leave and it works for them. It was funny to write this for a British journal because their perspective on caregiving is so different. Pumping is pretty much unheard of in Europe. One reason I was going to work was because I love my research, but if I could have taken six months off, paid, without worrying about career progression, then I probably would have spent a whole lot more of that babywearing time reading novels or going for walks outside.
peterwoerner 6y ago
Your conclusion is very true. And academia has a way of putting the pressure on the young workforce (until tenure at 40ish) to work long hours for not much money. And while this is true, it is also worth pointing out that many parents don't want to pause their adult/career goals for 3-6 months because of a new baby. I recently had my first child and while she was little (now 10 months) she would sleep/sit on my lap while I wrote code/ran numerical experiments. I had paternity leave, but I needed to keep working on something because I have an active mind. Now I only worked 4ish hours a day instead of my usual 8-10 (and on side projects instead of work), but I wanted to continue working. My wife who does graphic/web design consulting continued after the birth because it feels good to do adult things. And she didn't stop just because the baby was born she just dropped to 5ish hours a week which has slowly crept back up.
- jacobolus 6y ago
  3–10 months is easy enough. But you’ll have to be some kind of superhero to keep doing 4–5 hours of focused work a day with a 2–3 year old climbing on you.
  - peterwoerner 6y ago
    I know, she's a 10 months and I can't do my day job (working remotely) with her in the room any more. She especially likes to hit the power button on the computer and pull the power cords out of the outlets.
babywearingmama 6y ago
Author here! The subtext to this piece is that this is really about coping with the fact that grad students and postdocs in the US rarely get much parental leave. My institution offers two paid weeks off following childbirth. There’s FMLA but few grad student and postdocs can afford to take unpaid leave. Postdoc parents get very little support and everybody who does it has to find their own way to manage. On top of that is the fact that gaps in your training, if you manage to get leave, hurt your chances of getting a job because it is so uncommon to actually get time off. I chose to do this because I did not find it to be miserable, although it definitely wouldn’t work for everybody. In my field (biology), it is typical to postdoc for 3-6 years so I’m actually on the early side. That postdocs take so long is definitely something that needs to be addressed, though.
- k2enemy 6y ago
  Thank you for the reply! I'm sorry for the poor leave conditions at your institution. It would be great if you got more (paid) time off and were able to participate in work in a voluntary fashion rather than out of necessity. I was lucky that when my first was born my institution began a policy of a semester of paid leave for the mother or partner. As others have pointed out though, it seems to have a drawback that partners are more likely to use it for extra research time, which tends to raise tenure standards for everyone, including mothers. I think the problem is larger than a policy can address. We need a culture change. And enjoy the baby wearing! Mine are too big now and I miss it dearly.

semi-extrinsic 6y ago

Being a father I cannot comment too much on wearing baby to work. (I would be inclined to say that mothers, even scientist mothers, should be given sufficient parental leave, and that this should be adjusted for in all hiring processes.) But I did frequently wear both our babies in a sling during lots of other activities. Hiking, cross country skiing, strolling around town, doing small projects around the house, or just sitting down to read a book, are all really nice activities to do while wearing baby. All parents should try it. It's a closeness to your baby that is hard to convey if you haven't experienced it.

jacobolus 6y ago
One additional tip: if you hold your baby by the thighs and let them learn to balance their torso upright for a few minutes a day starting at about 5 months, within a month or two they should have enough strength/balance to sit up on your shoulders. Personally I found carrying a baby on shoulders a heck of a lot more convenient and comfortable than carrying them on my chest. Also then the whole time you are walking around the baby is further strengthening their muscles and improving their balance.

caffeine 6y ago

I think it's great her work allowed this and to the degree that it is not distracting for others, more workplaces should do so. I've done a lot of coding in 2020 during WFH with my son on my lap and I must say it's very pleasant

falseAss 6y ago
I personally find it's hard to focus (read / write code or document) with an 7-month infant around. The baby is constantly asking for parent's attention. I hope things could be better when she become 2-year old, but not really confident on that.
- jacobolus 6y ago
  For me at least, a 2-year-old took an order of magnitude more attention than a 7-month-old. So I wouldn’t hold your breath. My 4-year-old is finally getting a bit more independent now though. Now that he is able to read books, draw pictures, build things with construction toys, etc. that can keep him independently engaged for a good while with intermittent encouragement.

jeffrallen 6y ago

Baby wearing is also a good way for dads to find their place in baby care. Take the time to learn a couple sling knots. Having the skiing with you is as essentiel as having a towel with you... It is a towel, blanket, picnic blanket, carpet, bed, curtain and sun screen. No single takers allowed!

chrisin2d 6y ago

I have thought about how it would be societally healthy for parents to bring their babies and infants to work. In modern times we treat child-rearing as a private matter to be hidden from public adult life, but it’s long been a communal matter. Admittedly, I’m not great with kids: I don’t have the instincts yet. But I can recognize that childcare isn’t something that someone can schedule as a 4-hour bloc to be one-and-done in the evening (if they can’t or don’t want to hand their child to some hired service): it’s interwoven throughout a parent’s day. Sure, there will be crying and other noises, but I can deal with that. It seems to me artificial to make the 9am-5pm workday so sterile and devoid of organic human activity. I’m young and was a child of a single working mother not very long ago. I remember it being difficult for her. But I am now grown and — in a nod to my mother and other parents like her — favor a parent-friendly work culture.

jedberg 6y ago
I think the pandemic has helped in this regard. It seems to be pretty acceptable now to have a quiet kid sitting in your lap for a meeting, or taking a quick second to answer their question. I hope this trend continues past the pandemic.
Nasrudith 6y ago
I think there was a valid reason for that tendency even if it isn't the only right decision. If your job involves contact with many people (let alone other hazards) it sounds like a very good way to get the young child and everybody else infected as they have a non-fully developed immune system. There is a "too young for daycare" period for one. Cloistering the kids away (always a relative matter) may have developed as a strategy (by conscious or otherwise) to reduce infant mortality when the means were available. Farm work, hunter-gatherers and similiar could qualify as somewhat "bubbled" by low density. Socialization wise I can see it being a win potentially for bonding and experience for the kid certainly assuming it doesn't turn into "crying baby on an airplane but everywhere" situation which would hinder adoption.

jedberg 6y ago

I loved baby wearing. It kept both my hands free. In the first few months, it was perfect because I could reach around her and still type on the keyboard. It also makes traveling with the baby a lot easier because you have your hands free for luggage and whatnot. It was also great exercise to wear the baby while doing physical activity. I once carried her through the streets and museums of Paris for an entire day, and was barely sore. If you're a mom or dad I highly encourage it. In fact, it's a great way for dad to help out while mom's body recovers from birth.

dleslie 6y ago

I've had two babies while working from home at my current gig, and both of them spent plenty of time strapped to me while I bounced on a yoga ball and wrote code. I went with a sling/wrap, and could easily snug a bottle under it for them to nurse on while I worked. (I'm a man, making me ill-equipped to do so otherwise).

prionassembly 6y ago

The article doesn't deliver what the title promises. I'm going to be a dad in mid 21 and want to carry the child with me a lot. I've seen people use entire plastic products they attach to their upper torso that seem great, as (1) I'm not confident on my knot making skills (and I have a lot to learn already) and (2) maybe that stuff distributes the weight around better? But: maybe slings built out of whole cloth like the one shown in the picture are better somehow for parental attachment, and the structured kangaroo carrier is halfway a stroller. Maybe that's not even the tradeoff and there are other health and hazard considerations (e.g. sometimes I get hyperfocused enough that I can forgo lunch; should I carry my child on my chest rather than my back so I'm better aware of her status?) I want to know a lot about this subject and don't even know what questions to ask.

vondur 6y ago
I used the Baby Bjorn harness to tote my son around when he was an infant. He really liked it, and I was able to shop and get things done with him. I liked it.
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  Baby Bjorn worked for us as well. Had two so that wife and I could have our sizes immediately available. Baby definitely happier, and you can get a lot of chores done :)
watwut 6y ago
Your baby will be attached alright no matter what device. They all have you having tons on contact. Plus, most of year you two start warm cloth outside. Yet also, your baby will attach to you even in stroller, don't worry. Wearing baby is super practical definitely, but go with device that is most comfortable to you. The more comfortable, the more you will do it.
wjnc 6y ago
My tip would be to find a baby carrying enthusiast, ask for help and just try the cloth solutions first if you think you could be into cloth. My children didn't like being carried (I'm a shoulder carrying father now), but the knots at least where super easy. The knots don't hold the weight, the cloth and the shoulders to. The knots mainly finish the excess cloth so there's not much reason to be afraid that your child will fall due to a bad knot per se. The cloth will sag a lot before that.

gumby 6y ago

What an encouraging article. > I started wearing number 2 to the lab two weeks after she was born, because I was planning to apply for faculty jobs, and I was worried that taking time off would weaken my applications. Also a good way to show you are a "no BS just gets things done" kind of person. Also selects out places that aren't tolerant of anything unusual, but given the number of post docs and faculty positions many may be afraid of this.

pcmaffey 6y ago

I’ve always wanted to invent a baby balloon that worked as a floating replacement for strollers. Not sure about the helium requirements for < 35 lbs...

tbihl 6y ago
22.4 L/mol (call it 20). Air is 80% N2, so let's just assume density of air is 30g/mol (N2 is 28, round up for ease of use.) Helium, I think, is monoatomic, so 2g/mol. Thus, load supportability is 28g for every 22.4L. 35lb(454g/lb)(22.4L/28g) = a lot, maybe around 10,000L.

08-15 6y ago

Please do not wear a baby to work. The screaming banshee will prevent your coworkers from getting anything done. If you bring a bring a baby to the office I'm supposed to work in, I will kill you dead. Seriously.

mensetmanusman 6y ago
Depends on the age. When they are a few months old, they are quite silent. Once, my 3 m.o. sat through my thesis defense without making a sound, ha.
babywearingmama 6y ago
Newborns (without colic) are surprisingly quiet and sleep pretty much all day. Also, the snuggles of babywearing help lengthen naps.
knolax 6y ago
Is may just be me, but I have never been bothered by babies crying. Like it'll make me feel bad for the baby but it doesn't really make me mad.

mensetmanusman 6y ago

Father of five. Really glad that the baby carriers work for us. I can do chores with the newborn, they rarely cry because they are so interested in floating around/moving, and it definitely increases core strength. My favorite memory is being on a call with a few lawyers while carrying my 5 month old trying to move enough to prevent the baby from being bored/crying while simultaneously explaining our claim structure strategy. That was a tiring 90 minute meeting.

babywearingmama 6y ago

Hi, author here! Happy to answer any babywearing questions or point you to resources. Also it is great to see comments from so many babywearing dads!