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A big reason for using vanilla Workflowy for me is that the mobile app is quite good. It's actually ... really, really good. A lot of edit operations that I'd'v

A big reason for using vanilla Workflowy for me is that the mobile app is quite good. It's actually ... really, really good. A lot of edit operations that I'd've had to think for a while about how to support UX for--they do a good job of. I even ran into more hiccups using Notion. It's a huge plus for me to be able to see the same "knowledge tree" both at my computer and while I'm on the go. I love the key-feel of Vimflowy tho, and it makes me wish they could both just talk about the same underlying data store... Pairs especially well with being added to the "scratch workspace" in i3 for example. More generally speaking about this kind of tool: Workflowy has been amazing. The zoom aspect is really what makes it what it is for me, being able to enter a context, but then also have that as part of larger one, and being able to move things so quickly too.

masto 6y ago
I had to come back and re-read this. I saw all these comments last night about Workflowy and figured I’d give it a try today. Within 5 minutes, I’ve gotten completely lost and frustrated by what should be a simple outliner. The desktop site is a disaster on mobile, which doesn’t need to be the case in 2020, but I went ahead and installed the mobile app anyway. Aside from entering text, indent, and outdent, I’m finding nothing intuitive. I’ve finally given up on trying to drag a bullet — I finally figured out that you have to hold down on one, but when I drag and release it somewhere, it just reappears where it started. There’s no help or documentation available anywhere in the app. Much of the UI consists of unlabeled icons — what does a pencil in a square do? Apparently it adds a note underneath the current bullet.. I see from the “context menu” (swipe left, click three dots) that this is called “Add note”, and shows a keyboard shortcut next to it — shift return. Press shift return.. creates a new bullet instead of adding a note. I feel like I must be looking at a different app. I wouldn’t describe this as “really, really good”, I would describe it as something I am giving up on and uninstalling.
- nikki93 6y ago
  Interesting, it works and continues to work well for me, but it's totally possible that I happened to see through these issues. The main thing I've liked is the ability to set any bullet as the current view root and show a breadcrumb trail of its ancestral path in the header (this whole action being called "zoom"). Have you found apps in this space that work well for you?

masto 6y ago

I had to come back and re-read this. I saw all these comments last night about Workflowy and figured I’d give it a try today. Within 5 minutes, I’ve gotten completely lost and frustrated by what should be a simple outliner. The desktop site is a disaster on mobile, which doesn’t need to be the case in 2020, but I went ahead and installed the mobile app anyway. Aside from entering text, indent, and outdent, I’m finding nothing intuitive. I’ve finally given up on trying to drag a bullet — I finally figured out that you have to hold down on one, but when I drag and release it somewhere, it just reappears where it started. There’s no help or documentation available anywhere in the app. Much of the UI consists of unlabeled icons — what does a pencil in a square do? Apparently it adds a note underneath the current bullet.. I see from the “context menu” (swipe left, click three dots) that this is called “Add note”, and shows a keyboard shortcut next to it — shift return. Press shift return.. creates a new bullet instead of adding a note. I feel like I must be looking at a different app. I wouldn’t describe this as “really, really good”, I would describe it as something I am giving up on and uninstalling.

nikki93 6y ago
Interesting, it works and continues to work well for me, but it's totally possible that I happened to see through these issues. The main thing I've liked is the ability to set any bullet as the current view root and show a breadcrumb trail of its ancestral path in the header (this whole action being called "zoom"). Have you found apps in this space that work well for you?