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I think you've missed what they were complaining about. > Human men can become aroused looking at flat images of nude women in black and white. Dispassionate

I think you've missed what they were complaining about. > Human men can become aroused looking at flat images of nude women in black and white. Dispassionate factual statement. Not sexist. > Ever think a dog is dumb for growling at his reflection in the mirror? Comparing men to dogs and implying they're dumb. Sexist.

grillvogel 6y ago
that's a bit of a stretch. more like "here's an example of something that animals do that most would consider dumb, it turns out that humans actually do something similar"
- throwaway_dnadu 6y ago
  > that's a bit of a stretch Nah people do this all the time when making comments designed to put people down. Yes they didn't explicitly say they think men are like dogs... they just gently popped those two things together next to each other and left them there for people to quietly pick up what they mean, but keeping themselves clean if anyone points it out. It's called (ironically in this case) a dog whistle. Keep an eye out for them!
  - maroonblazer 6y ago
    Are you arguing against the example or the idea? More generally we call these illusions. There are any number of examples we could swap out and the point wouldn't change.
  - polotics 6y ago
    Nitpicking brigade here, sorry: In my understanding a dog whistle is something else, it's a code phrase used to refer to some opinion that's unsavoury and know transgressive to communicate out-of-band to your supporters that you share that opinion. An actual dog whistle for calling dogs produces ultrasound, that humans cannot hear...
irrational 6y ago
I don’t know. I’m a man and in my experience men are pretty dumb. I wasn’t offended by the dog comparison.
- throwaway_dnadu 6y ago
  One individual in the target group not being offended doesn't mean it's not sexist. Many women are ok with deeply sexist things towards women. Doesn't make it right.
- Draiken 6y ago
  Not being offended by something does not make it sexist or not
  - mensetmanusman 6y ago
    Your statement assumes there is an objective ruler/measure of what is sexist or not. It is likely that such a measure does not exist. People’s perception therefore take precedent.

grillvogel 6y ago

that's a bit of a stretch. more like "here's an example of something that animals do that most would consider dumb, it turns out that humans actually do something similar"

throwaway_dnadu 6y ago
> that's a bit of a stretch Nah people do this all the time when making comments designed to put people down. Yes they didn't explicitly say they think men are like dogs... they just gently popped those two things together next to each other and left them there for people to quietly pick up what they mean, but keeping themselves clean if anyone points it out. It's called (ironically in this case) a dog whistle. Keep an eye out for them!
- maroonblazer 6y ago
  Are you arguing against the example or the idea? More generally we call these illusions. There are any number of examples we could swap out and the point wouldn't change.
- polotics 6y ago
  Nitpicking brigade here, sorry: In my understanding a dog whistle is something else, it's a code phrase used to refer to some opinion that's unsavoury and know transgressive to communicate out-of-band to your supporters that you share that opinion. An actual dog whistle for calling dogs produces ultrasound, that humans cannot hear...

irrational 6y ago

I don’t know. I’m a man and in my experience men are pretty dumb. I wasn’t offended by the dog comparison.

throwaway_dnadu 6y ago
One individual in the target group not being offended doesn't mean it's not sexist. Many women are ok with deeply sexist things towards women. Doesn't make it right.
Draiken 6y ago
Not being offended by something does not make it sexist or not
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  Your statement assumes there is an objective ruler/measure of what is sexist or not. It is likely that such a measure does not exist. People’s perception therefore take precedent.