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This is fascinating. I'm glad that they're allowing psychedelics for certain types of treatment, but I hope that the choices open up further than psilocybin. B

This is fascinating. I'm glad that they're allowing psychedelics for certain types of treatment, but I hope that the choices open up further than psilocybin. Back in my teenage years I took pretty much every psychedelic I could access, and trip-sat (like babysitting) for about two dozen of my friends over the course of a few years. I found in tripsitting that psilocybin was among the more difficult to manage psychedelics, especially for first-timers. I found that 2C-B/E, DOC and LSD were the best-tolerated substances among people that weren't "psychonaut veterans." This is purely anecdotal and in no way meant to imply that I know what the hell I'm talking about. I only bring it up as a thought that popped into my head relating to the use of psychedelic drugs in therapy. Also, no. I do not know where to get any of this stuff anymore. Haven't known for over a decade.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago
The study used psilocybin as an adjunct to 11 hours of professional therapy. This study is not the same as taking psilocybin or other psychedelic drugs in an ad-hoc manner.
- ItsMattyG 6y ago
  Although previous studies have basically been "listen to music with a tripsitter" and have had little ill effects.
- newbie789 6y ago
  I agree! I don't know how all this works, I just had a related thought pop into my head.
aksss 6y ago
That's interesting. I think LSD (not micro, but full on) is probably the most "dangerous". I've seen people fall into full retard mode on LSD, never seen anything quite as severe from people taking shrooms. Personally, I've never had a bad trip on shrooms, definitely had one or two on acid. The nature of the trip is quite a bit different. I'd call LSD an "advanced" psychedelic, and shrooms way more beginner-friendly/benign. Writing none of this to disparage either, just interesting that you have a very different opinion/experience regarding their nature.
- newbie789 6y ago
  I'm very much biased by my own experiences (hence my disclaimer that I make no claim to expertise here.) I've personally experienced and witnessed shroom trips being more... primal and emotional? than LSD To be fair, considering the importance of set and setting, my opinions on the subject may be entirely informed by what I was going through during my trips personally, and what my friends were going through during theirs! Again, not an expert haha
mckirk 6y ago
That's an interesting insight. Could it be a product of the difficulty in dosing mushrooms in a private setting, though? I'd imagine trips to generally go smoother if it's possible to aim for an intended level of weirdness more precisely.
- newbie789 6y ago
  That absolutely could be the issue! Though I never took any myself, I do vaguely recall hearing that 4-aco-dmt (a prodrug for psilocin, just like psilocybin) was more manageable than mushroom consumption. I'd bet that might be due to ease of dosing.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago

The study used psilocybin as an adjunct to 11 hours of professional therapy. This study is not the same as taking psilocybin or other psychedelic drugs in an ad-hoc manner.

ItsMattyG 6y ago
Although previous studies have basically been "listen to music with a tripsitter" and have had little ill effects.
newbie789 6y ago
I agree! I don't know how all this works, I just had a related thought pop into my head.

aksss 6y ago

That's interesting. I think LSD (not micro, but full on) is probably the most "dangerous". I've seen people fall into full retard mode on LSD, never seen anything quite as severe from people taking shrooms. Personally, I've never had a bad trip on shrooms, definitely had one or two on acid. The nature of the trip is quite a bit different. I'd call LSD an "advanced" psychedelic, and shrooms way more beginner-friendly/benign. Writing none of this to disparage either, just interesting that you have a very different opinion/experience regarding their nature.

newbie789 6y ago
I'm very much biased by my own experiences (hence my disclaimer that I make no claim to expertise here.) I've personally experienced and witnessed shroom trips being more... primal and emotional? than LSD To be fair, considering the importance of set and setting, my opinions on the subject may be entirely informed by what I was going through during my trips personally, and what my friends were going through during theirs! Again, not an expert haha

mckirk 6y ago

That's an interesting insight. Could it be a product of the difficulty in dosing mushrooms in a private setting, though? I'd imagine trips to generally go smoother if it's possible to aim for an intended level of weirdness more precisely.

newbie789 6y ago
That absolutely could be the issue! Though I never took any myself, I do vaguely recall hearing that 4-aco-dmt (a prodrug for psilocin, just like psilocybin) was more manageable than mushroom consumption. I'd bet that might be due to ease of dosing.