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In Arizona, with a chronic pain doctor, I was able to get pure ketamine liquid infusion via IV for 3-4 hours, while I listened to music. Felt like rebirth. My s

In Arizona, with a chronic pain doctor, I was able to get pure ketamine liquid infusion via IV for 3-4 hours, while I listened to music. Felt like rebirth. My spinal pain was significantly decreased for the next few weeks, and my mood was ecstatic. Like the mushrooms though, it is short-lived. The doctor liked prescribing it because it is an NMDA agonist and decreased my opioid tolerance quite a bit, also helps with withdrawal symptoms. It is not covered by insurance -- $450 out of pocket. Spravato, the nasal spray, is cheaper but won't be as dramatic an experience [1] [1] https://www.spravato.com https://www.spravato.com

monoideism 6y ago
Thank you. I've had a very bad experience w/anesthesia so am always nervous while dealing with anything of that nature. Wonder if that predisposes me to a bad trip. Not sure that would be worth it for just 2 weeks of relief. Also not sure I'd be able to find any such doctor near me. Probably health care providers are much more open minded out West than it is here.
- goldenkey 6y ago
  The nice thing about ketamine is that it is a sedative. I've done LSD, Mushrooms, and DMT. Ketamine is the most enjoyable and least risky in my opinion, due to its sedative nature. The doctors usually give an anti-anxiety drug before starting the infusion, a benzodiazepine such as midazolam. As I did more infusions, we increased the ketamine dose and decreased the midazolam. Find a good doctor and work with them. Ketamine is a really wonderful substance for pain and depression.
  - acidbaseextract 6y ago
    Eh... enjoyable is subjective. At subrecreational, subanesthetic doses, it can make you feel really fucking weird. It's not bad, and it's certainly survivable given that you're dissociated from it — but it makes me feel really weird. As to monoideism's question: I'm not a doctor, but ketamine is more benign than many other anesthetics especially at the lower doses used in treating depression. Do your homework, but don't rule it out based upon prior experiences with other anesthetics.
  - monoideism 6y ago
    Did insurance cover Spravato? I didn’t even realize it was available as a self-administered prescription drug.
    - goldenkey 6y ago
      You are right: Spravato has to be administered in office, it cannot be taken home. The doctors who were offering it weren't even covered by my insurance, so I'm not sure if the drug itself is covered.

monoideism 6y ago

Thank you. I've had a very bad experience w/anesthesia so am always nervous while dealing with anything of that nature. Wonder if that predisposes me to a bad trip. Not sure that would be worth it for just 2 weeks of relief. Also not sure I'd be able to find any such doctor near me. Probably health care providers are much more open minded out West than it is here.

goldenkey 6y ago
The nice thing about ketamine is that it is a sedative. I've done LSD, Mushrooms, and DMT. Ketamine is the most enjoyable and least risky in my opinion, due to its sedative nature. The doctors usually give an anti-anxiety drug before starting the infusion, a benzodiazepine such as midazolam. As I did more infusions, we increased the ketamine dose and decreased the midazolam. Find a good doctor and work with them. Ketamine is a really wonderful substance for pain and depression.
- acidbaseextract 6y ago
  Eh... enjoyable is subjective. At subrecreational, subanesthetic doses, it can make you feel really fucking weird. It's not bad, and it's certainly survivable given that you're dissociated from it — but it makes me feel really weird. As to monoideism's question: I'm not a doctor, but ketamine is more benign than many other anesthetics especially at the lower doses used in treating depression. Do your homework, but don't rule it out based upon prior experiences with other anesthetics.
- monoideism 6y ago
  Did insurance cover Spravato? I didn’t even realize it was available as a self-administered prescription drug.
  - goldenkey 6y ago
    You are right: Spravato has to be administered in office, it cannot be taken home. The doctors who were offering it weren't even covered by my insurance, so I'm not sure if the drug itself is covered.