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>this right here is (sadly) already a DMCA violation for the person who rips the DVD Yes, because we all live in America... right? Megaupload wasn't even a US

by eMSF 6y ago

>this right here is (sadly) already a DMCA violation for the person who rips the DVD Yes, because we all live in America... right? Megaupload wasn't even a US company, why should it “enforce” some foreign legislation on non-concerned parties?

leetcrew 6y ago
I dunno, that seems like a good question for the FBI...
matheusmoreira 6y ago
> Yes, because we all live in America... right? Pretty much. The US makes other countries adopt laws that are similar to their own via trade agreements. The whole purpose of doing that is to make it easier for american businesses to sell stuff in other countries. The whole world is economically forced to converge into the same set of general laws that just happen to be very friendly to the interests of american corporations. Intellectual property laws are included in the package. There are countries in the world where governments struggle to provide basic infrastructure to their populations. Why would anyone in such a miserable situation even care about protecting american copyright industry interests by prosecuting copyright infringement? An MPAA official once visited my country to lobby politicians and push their agenda. Journalists asked him point blank: do you think copyright is a priority in a country where people do not have basic sanitation? I wish I had saved the article where I read that... > Megaupload wasn't even a US company, why should it “enforce” some foreign legislation on non-concerned parties? Good question... The US can probably just do whatever it wants though. If they hate you enough, they'll just kidnap you and fly you to wherever it is they need you to be. They call it extraordinary rendition.
marcus_holmes 6y ago
This is the key to this whole farce. Nothing he or his company did was illegal in NZ. Put it like this: if a Pakistani courts tried to extradite Zuckerburg for blasphemy because some of Facebook's users said bad things about islam, then they'd be rightfully laughed at. But a US court trying to extradite a NZ CEO for something the company's users did... different story. Because America.
- howlgarnish 6y ago
  Extradition works on the principle of dual criminality: the act has to be a crime in both countries. This is why the US won't extradite Zuckerberg to Pakistan for blasphemy, and it's also why the Dotcom case has been tied up in courts for years, because it's not clear at all if what he did was illegal under NZ law or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_criminality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_criminality

by eMSF 6y ago

leetcrew 6y ago

I dunno, that seems like a good question for the FBI...

matheusmoreira 6y ago

> Yes, because we all live in America... right? Pretty much. The US makes other countries adopt laws that are similar to their own via trade agreements. The whole purpose of doing that is to make it easier for american businesses to sell stuff in other countries. The whole world is economically forced to converge into the same set of general laws that just happen to be very friendly to the interests of american corporations. Intellectual property laws are included in the package. There are countries in the world where governments struggle to provide basic infrastructure to their populations. Why would anyone in such a miserable situation even care about protecting american copyright industry interests by prosecuting copyright infringement? An MPAA official once visited my country to lobby politicians and push their agenda. Journalists asked him point blank: do you think copyright is a priority in a country where people do not have basic sanitation? I wish I had saved the article where I read that... > Megaupload wasn't even a US company, why should it “enforce” some foreign legislation on non-concerned parties? Good question... The US can probably just do whatever it wants though. If they hate you enough, they'll just kidnap you and fly you to wherever it is they need you to be. They call it extraordinary rendition.

marcus_holmes 6y ago

This is the key to this whole farce. Nothing he or his company did was illegal in NZ. Put it like this: if a Pakistani courts tried to extradite Zuckerburg for blasphemy because some of Facebook's users said bad things about islam, then they'd be rightfully laughed at. But a US court trying to extradite a NZ CEO for something the company's users did... different story. Because America.

howlgarnish 6y ago
Extradition works on the principle of dual criminality: the act has to be a crime in both countries. This is why the US won't extradite Zuckerberg to Pakistan for blasphemy, and it's also why the Dotcom case has been tied up in courts for years, because it's not clear at all if what he did was illegal under NZ law or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_criminality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_criminality