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Sorry if this is inappropriate, but for people looking for a tool like this or Workflowy, I want to suggest Dynalist, which has the simplicity of Workflowy but

by dnr 6y ago

Sorry if this is inappropriate, but for people looking for a tool like this or Workflowy, I want to suggest Dynalist, which has the simplicity of Workflowy but also a bunch more features. Cloud-based, always synced, mobile apps, easy sharing, calendar integration, etc. I'm a die-hard vim user but I still use Dynalist because it's so great. https://dynalist.io https://dynalist.io I'm a paying user but have no other affiliation (ask me if you want a referral code though). I just want more people to use it so the creators are successful and keep improving it.

roveo 6y ago
I tried Dynalist and moved back to Workflowy literally a couple of days ago. The main problem for me was that you can't link-share an arbitrary bullet and it's children — only the whole document. So if I need to share a link, I have to create a new document just for this purpose. The one-document model of Workflowy just seems more logical and simple. Although the free version of Dynalist is more complete/usable, so if you don't really care about sharing, it's better (for example, no limitation for created nodes per day). And obviously they are both missing vim bindings, which I would LOVE to see.
- dnr 6y ago
  That's fair. I recall reading the developers' rationale for their decision to do multiple documents and sharing at the document level. They argued that it simplified the mental model, and I'd tend to agree: when I use shared docs I want to be careful with what's private and what's shared, and the UI (the document list on the left) make it easy to do that. Almost every time I've shared something, it's been intended for sharing from the start, so creating a new document is natural. (And the one time that wasn't true, cut and paste into a new doc was just a few clicks.) One problem with Workflowy for me was that the mobile app(s) were not very good. Dynalist's isn't great either but it's better. Anyway, the products are more similar than they are different.
  - jessep 6y ago
    Our mobile apps have had a major overhaul, you should try them again.
    - smusamashah 6y ago
      How about giving an API like Dynalist?
three_legs 6y ago
Yeah I first found Dynalist on HN from a comment like yours about 5 years ago! I have so much of my life there

by dnr 6y ago

roveo 6y ago

I tried Dynalist and moved back to Workflowy literally a couple of days ago. The main problem for me was that you can't link-share an arbitrary bullet and it's children — only the whole document. So if I need to share a link, I have to create a new document just for this purpose. The one-document model of Workflowy just seems more logical and simple. Although the free version of Dynalist is more complete/usable, so if you don't really care about sharing, it's better (for example, no limitation for created nodes per day). And obviously they are both missing vim bindings, which I would LOVE to see.

dnr 6y ago
That's fair. I recall reading the developers' rationale for their decision to do multiple documents and sharing at the document level. They argued that it simplified the mental model, and I'd tend to agree: when I use shared docs I want to be careful with what's private and what's shared, and the UI (the document list on the left) make it easy to do that. Almost every time I've shared something, it's been intended for sharing from the start, so creating a new document is natural. (And the one time that wasn't true, cut and paste into a new doc was just a few clicks.) One problem with Workflowy for me was that the mobile app(s) were not very good. Dynalist's isn't great either but it's better. Anyway, the products are more similar than they are different.
- jessep 6y ago
  Our mobile apps have had a major overhaul, you should try them again.
  - smusamashah 6y ago
    How about giving an API like Dynalist?

three_legs 6y ago

Yeah I first found Dynalist on HN from a comment like yours about 5 years ago! I have so much of my life there