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I don’t agree. Pigs are on the same cognitive level as dogs. Would it be morally acceptable to kill and eat a (big) dog for its 150000 calories after raising in

I don’t agree. Pigs are on the same cognitive level as dogs. Would it be morally acceptable to kill and eat a (big) dog for its 150000 calories after raising in terrible conditions for a few years?

ljf 6y ago
I agree btw - but most pigs are killed after just 20 to 24 weeks - though yes breeding mothers are kept in terrible conditions for years.
logifail 6y ago
> raising in terrible conditions ...source? Farming doesn't have to be intensive. We get milk from a nearby farm. Given we mostly walk there the "food miles" would be precisely zero.
- ornornor 6y ago
  Not intensive farming is less bad than intensive farming but in your example, a cow still needs to have a calf and that calf slaughtered for milk to keep coming. And that cow will be killed off the moment it stops making enough milk which is a fraction of its natural life span. It’s not like not intensive farming is innocent either. And for shit and giggles, check what’s the proportion of industrially farmed meat vs non intensive that’s sold every day.
- autosharp 6y ago
  > Farming doesn't have to be intensive. We get milk from a nearby farm. Given we mostly walk there the "food miles" would be precisely zero. Sure, that is nice but in no way representative. More than 99% of produced hogs do live in horrific conditions. The fact that you know of a happy hog doesn't relate to the vast majority of hogs.
nkrisc 6y ago
I don't see why it matters if it's a dog or a pig. But to answer your question: it depends on a lot of factors, if you really want to go down the morality rabbit hole. I guess I'll say it's less morally acceptable to slaughter a dog for food that's kept in terrible conditions than one that's kept in good conditions.
jen20 6y ago
It seems to be becoming less acceptable in one of the few places to actually do that.
- ornornor 6y ago
  Kinda my point. Why are dogs not ok but pigs no problem.
user5994461 6y ago
For reference, a pig is 3-10 dogs, more if you're talking about the smallest dogs.

I don’t agree. Pigs are on the same cognitive level as dogs. Would it be morally acceptable to kill and eat a (big) dog for its 150000 calories after raising in terrible conditions for a few years?

ljf 6y ago

I agree btw - but most pigs are killed after just 20 to 24 weeks - though yes breeding mothers are kept in terrible conditions for years.

logifail 6y ago

> raising in terrible conditions ...source? Farming doesn't have to be intensive. We get milk from a nearby farm. Given we mostly walk there the "food miles" would be precisely zero.

ornornor 6y ago
Not intensive farming is less bad than intensive farming but in your example, a cow still needs to have a calf and that calf slaughtered for milk to keep coming. And that cow will be killed off the moment it stops making enough milk which is a fraction of its natural life span. It’s not like not intensive farming is innocent either. And for shit and giggles, check what’s the proportion of industrially farmed meat vs non intensive that’s sold every day.
autosharp 6y ago
> Farming doesn't have to be intensive. We get milk from a nearby farm. Given we mostly walk there the "food miles" would be precisely zero. Sure, that is nice but in no way representative. More than 99% of produced hogs do live in horrific conditions. The fact that you know of a happy hog doesn't relate to the vast majority of hogs.

nkrisc 6y ago

I don't see why it matters if it's a dog or a pig. But to answer your question: it depends on a lot of factors, if you really want to go down the morality rabbit hole. I guess I'll say it's less morally acceptable to slaughter a dog for food that's kept in terrible conditions than one that's kept in good conditions.

jen20 6y ago

It seems to be becoming less acceptable in one of the few places to actually do that.

ornornor 6y ago
Kinda my point. Why are dogs not ok but pigs no problem.

user5994461 6y ago

For reference, a pig is 3-10 dogs, more if you're talking about the smallest dogs.