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Note that TeXmacs is not based on TeX/LaTeX (and not on Emacs either). It is a completely independent editor, typesetting language, graphical frontend etc, all

by svat 6y ago

Note that TeXmacs is not based on TeX/LaTeX (and not on Emacs either). It is a completely independent editor, typesetting language, graphical frontend etc, all in one. Its developer, Joris van der Hoeven, is one of the co-authors of this research paper that has been exported to HTML, so I presume that the paper was written specifically in/for TeXmacs: your arbitrary LaTeX document won't be so easily importable into TeXmacs AFAIK.

taeric 6y ago
That... is less than straight forward. Quirks of history?
- coliveira 6y ago
  The original plan was to create an editor with the extensibility of emacs and the typesetting abilities of TeX. Hence the name.
  - taeric 6y ago
    Feels unnecessarily misleading.
krupan 6y ago
This reminds me of grape nuts cereal. You look at the ingredients and there are no grapes and no nuts
- Igelau 6y ago
  The Wind Fish in name only, for it is neither.
- tzs 6y ago
  How it came to be called Grape-Nuts when it is neither is explained on grapenuts.com [1]: > Grape-Nuts actually contains neither grapes nor nuts. It’s made from wheat and barley. So, why is it called Grape-Nuts? As with many great emblems in history, there are two versions of the story. One says that Mr. Post believed glucose, which he called “grape sugar,” formed during the baking process. This, combined with the nutty flavor of the cereal, is said to have inspired its name. Another explanation claims that the cereal got its name from its resemblance to grape seeds, or grape “nuts.” [1] https://www.grapenuts.com/our-story/ https://www.grapenuts.com/our-story/
  - pvorb 6y ago
    Btw, the German word for glucose is Traubenzucker, which literally translates to "grape sugar". I'm not sure if it's also common in English.
    - User23 6y ago
      My father's hometown, in the United States, had a total of five German language daily newspapers when he was a boy. This was a bit after C.W. Post died, but I expect that either it was German influence or at the time both Americans and Germans (and German-Americans) referred to dextrose as grape sugar and that usage just faded among the English speaking populations.
- snakeboy 6y ago
  “No wonder kids grow up crazy. A cat's cradle is nothing but a bunch of X's between somebody's hands, and little kids look and look and look at all those X's . . ." "And?" "No damn cat, and no damn cradle.”
- xdavidliu 6y ago
  I've never used TeXmacs but I do use TeX and Emacs. Does TeXmacs at least have macros? (That's what "macs" stands for in Emacs)
beervirus 6y ago
What a ridiculous name then.
- willtim 6y ago
  Exactly what I was thinking
- gwern 6y ago
  But, a fitting homage to Emacs then: 'A cocky novice once said to Stallman: “I can guess why the editor is called Emacs, but why is the justifier called Bolio?”. Stallman replied forcefully, “Names are but names, ‘Emack & Bolio's’ is the name of a popular ice cream shop in Boston-town. Neither of these men had anything to do with the software.” His question answered, yet unanswered, the novice turned to go, but Stallman called to him, “Neither Emack nor Bolio had anything to do with the ice cream shop, either.'

by svat 6y ago

taeric 6y ago

That... is less than straight forward. Quirks of history?

coliveira 6y ago
The original plan was to create an editor with the extensibility of emacs and the typesetting abilities of TeX. Hence the name.
- taeric 6y ago
  Feels unnecessarily misleading.

krupan 6y ago

This reminds me of grape nuts cereal. You look at the ingredients and there are no grapes and no nuts

Igelau 6y ago
The Wind Fish in name only, for it is neither.
tzs 6y ago
How it came to be called Grape-Nuts when it is neither is explained on grapenuts.com [1]: > Grape-Nuts actually contains neither grapes nor nuts. It’s made from wheat and barley. So, why is it called Grape-Nuts? As with many great emblems in history, there are two versions of the story. One says that Mr. Post believed glucose, which he called “grape sugar,” formed during the baking process. This, combined with the nutty flavor of the cereal, is said to have inspired its name. Another explanation claims that the cereal got its name from its resemblance to grape seeds, or grape “nuts.” [1] https://www.grapenuts.com/our-story/ https://www.grapenuts.com/our-story/
- pvorb 6y ago
  Btw, the German word for glucose is Traubenzucker, which literally translates to "grape sugar". I'm not sure if it's also common in English.
  - User23 6y ago
    My father's hometown, in the United States, had a total of five German language daily newspapers when he was a boy. This was a bit after C.W. Post died, but I expect that either it was German influence or at the time both Americans and Germans (and German-Americans) referred to dextrose as grape sugar and that usage just faded among the English speaking populations.
snakeboy 6y ago
“No wonder kids grow up crazy. A cat's cradle is nothing but a bunch of X's between somebody's hands, and little kids look and look and look at all those X's . . ." "And?" "No damn cat, and no damn cradle.”
xdavidliu 6y ago
I've never used TeXmacs but I do use TeX and Emacs. Does TeXmacs at least have macros? (That's what "macs" stands for in Emacs)

beervirus 6y ago

What a ridiculous name then.

willtim 6y ago
Exactly what I was thinking
gwern 6y ago
But, a fitting homage to Emacs then: 'A cocky novice once said to Stallman: “I can guess why the editor is called Emacs, but why is the justifier called Bolio?”. Stallman replied forcefully, “Names are but names, ‘Emack & Bolio's’ is the name of a popular ice cream shop in Boston-town. Neither of these men had anything to do with the software.” His question answered, yet unanswered, the novice turned to go, but Stallman called to him, “Neither Emack nor Bolio had anything to do with the ice cream shop, either.'