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In many ways they can't as it is the state that created the markets they operate in and it is the state who helps them maintain their monopolies.
by AsyncAwait 6y ago
In many ways they can't as it is the state that created the markets they operate in and it is the state who helps them maintain their monopolies.
- primrose 6y agoMarkets form naturally from consensual interactions of goods and services for money. I suppose you could argue the government creating the money allowed the market but alternatives currencies would be created like gold or now crypto.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoMarkets with particular rules that help keep monopolies in place don't form naturally. They require a state entity to enforce the rules.
- primrose 6y agoGuess this means we should remove as many rules as possible to avoid monopolies.
- nathias 6y agoNot at all, not conceptually and not historically.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoYou do realize there's many corporations today who only exist because of taxpayer bailouts or thanks to large government contracts, right?
- nathias 6y agoThere are humans that are being kept alive by medical machines, this doesn't mean humans can't live without machines.
- ur-whale 6y ago>it is the state that created the markets This is historically inaccurate. The fact that the term "black market" exists is proof enough to demonstrate that claim. That states have always tried their darndest (with varying degrees of success) to control markets to e.g. tax them is a better way of looking at things.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoWhat I said is: > it is the state that created the markets they operate in There's many large corporations who are only still around because of the state, they wouldn't survive on the kind of market you're probably thinking of.
- nathias 6y agoWithout the state the big ones would turn into fiefdoms (and probably will anyway).
- pgcj_poster 6y agoBlack markets just operate on top of white markets, often using the same exact state-backed money. Hunter-gather groups and other social structures known to exist before states generally operated on gift economies. There's not really any anthropological evidence that markets existed prior to the formation of states. Read the first few chapters of Debt: The First 5000 Years by David Graeber (RIP).