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Does Knowing God Just Take Practice?

11 points by Vigier 6y ago

cable2600 6y ago
Religion is based on two words re again and lig connect or connect again. You have to keep a connection to a higher power. Not everyone is receptive to this higher power and cannot feel the connection. It is hard to explain, but it cannot be proven in science and math.
vmception 6y ago
Are there any religious or whole congregations that use mushrooms during service? Not the ones the become "spiritual" and feel a connection to a "universe energy" but people that tie it into their individual sentience beings from another plane like angels or their God from a known organized and Abrahamic religion. Stands to reason that this could strengthen the connection especially with the susceptibility enhanced from a guide or religious leader. With some decriminalization this could be more publicly experimented with. Not quite retail legalization but probably tolerated enough in some counties that the religious law abiding citizens would feel comfortable doing it.
- wavefunction 6y ago
  Why does it need to be Abrahamic? The Native American Church --which syncretizes traditional Native American beliefs with Christianity-- takes peyote buttons as part of their ritual practices.
  - chews 6y ago
    Pretty sure Christianity is inherently Abrahamic. Thank you for mentioning the Native American church, it’s awesome to see how faiths evolve.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  "Are there any religious or whole congregations that use mushrooms during service?" You might be interested in reading about María Sabina,[1] who introduced Gordon Wasson (and, through him the whole rest of the world) to the magic mushroom. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sabina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sabina
zahreeley 6y ago
It’s just a philosophy which tries to answer some of humanity questions. The idea of God is the pillar to the religion. God puts fullstop on the questions which the religion can’t answer. We call it, Only God knows. We need better definition.
pmoriarty 6y ago
I fully expect a major religious revival as psychedelics become more widely used. It's happened before, and some have even argued that the major religions have their roots in psychedelic use. Having powerful mystical experiences has been shown to be pretty common on psychedelics, new psychedelic religions are springing up all the time, and it's likely that this trend will only accelerate with increased psychedelic use. It'll be interesting to see how the major religions react to this. In recent centuries they've been pretty put off by the idea that psychedelics (or any other authority than their own) could give people true religious revelation or authentic religious experience, but it is possible that they might change their minds if they see the psychedelics actually re-enliven people's sense of the sacred and start bringing them back to the fold. Is it beyond imagining that one day we'll see religious ceremonies involving psychedelics in mainstream churches, synagogues, and mosques?
- jbob2000 6y ago
  I’ve had psychedelic experiences; they really just inflate your ego, and I’m sure it’s easy to conflate ego with god.
loopz 6y ago
When you keep the best intentions, you move closer to God, or vica versa. There is no disconnect, we just choose differently for many reasons. It has to be us as it's all for us. There's no need for belief systems or ideologies, though they are vehicles to somewhere. Through action and inaction (karma) we get to know ourselves and our relationships.

11 points by Vigier 6y ago

Religion is based on two words re again and lig connect or connect again. You have to keep a connection to a higher power. Not everyone is receptive to this higher power and cannot feel the connection. It is hard to explain, but it cannot be proven in science and math.

vmception 6y ago

Are there any religious or whole congregations that use mushrooms during service? Not the ones the become "spiritual" and feel a connection to a "universe energy" but people that tie it into their individual sentience beings from another plane like angels or their God from a known organized and Abrahamic religion. Stands to reason that this could strengthen the connection especially with the susceptibility enhanced from a guide or religious leader. With some decriminalization this could be more publicly experimented with. Not quite retail legalization but probably tolerated enough in some counties that the religious law abiding citizens would feel comfortable doing it.

wavefunction 6y ago
Why does it need to be Abrahamic? The Native American Church --which syncretizes traditional Native American beliefs with Christianity-- takes peyote buttons as part of their ritual practices.
- chews 6y ago
  Pretty sure Christianity is inherently Abrahamic. Thank you for mentioning the Native American church, it’s awesome to see how faiths evolve.
pmoriarty 6y ago
"Are there any religious or whole congregations that use mushrooms during service?" You might be interested in reading about María Sabina,[1] who introduced Gordon Wasson (and, through him the whole rest of the world) to the magic mushroom. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sabina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sabina

zahreeley 6y ago

It’s just a philosophy which tries to answer some of humanity questions. The idea of God is the pillar to the religion. God puts fullstop on the questions which the religion can’t answer. We call it, Only God knows. We need better definition.

pmoriarty 6y ago

I fully expect a major religious revival as psychedelics become more widely used. It's happened before, and some have even argued that the major religions have their roots in psychedelic use. Having powerful mystical experiences has been shown to be pretty common on psychedelics, new psychedelic religions are springing up all the time, and it's likely that this trend will only accelerate with increased psychedelic use. It'll be interesting to see how the major religions react to this. In recent centuries they've been pretty put off by the idea that psychedelics (or any other authority than their own) could give people true religious revelation or authentic religious experience, but it is possible that they might change their minds if they see the psychedelics actually re-enliven people's sense of the sacred and start bringing them back to the fold. Is it beyond imagining that one day we'll see religious ceremonies involving psychedelics in mainstream churches, synagogues, and mosques?

jbob2000 6y ago
I’ve had psychedelic experiences; they really just inflate your ego, and I’m sure it’s easy to conflate ego with god.

loopz 6y ago

When you keep the best intentions, you move closer to God, or vica versa. There is no disconnect, we just choose differently for many reasons. It has to be us as it's all for us. There's no need for belief systems or ideologies, though they are vehicles to somewhere. Through action and inaction (karma) we get to know ourselves and our relationships.