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That's horrible, and how can anyone find that ok. Per "Guns, Germs, and Steel", it's not even strategic, because diversification of existing strains should nat
by jjtheblunt 6y ago
That's horrible, and how can anyone find that ok.
Per "Guns, Germs, and Steel", it's not even strategic, because diversification of existing strains should naturally select the least deadly, as well as spread antibodies across species boundaries.
- Radle 6y agoThe animals are killed anyway for their fur. What do you think mink farms are?
- ssijak 6y agoThat does not make it less but more cruel.
- jjtheblunt 6y agoExactly; well said
- jjtheblunt 6y agoThere's nothing ambiguous about what they are.
- bzb6 6y agoHumans > Minks
- pinipedman 6y agoHumans raise mink in horrible conditions just to be slaughtered so we can make a fashion statement. Then, when the very conditions we created become an inconvenience to us, we slaughter them and fail to make even frivolous use of them, rendering their tortured lives even more pointless and sad. After all that you have to be pretty callous and self-important as a species to think "Humans > Minks"
- apazzolini 6y agoI completely agree with your first paragraph, but humans > minks by literally any measure.
- recursive 6y ago> humans > minks by literally any measure Not by the measure of the luster of their coat.
- bigbubba 6y agoOur coats now.
- throwaway889900 6y agoTime to engineer some humans with lustrous fur then
- learnstats2 6y agoThis is a bit self-referential. 'Humans are the best therefore human measures are the best therefore humans are the best' [Caged] minks probably don't think that humans > minks by any measure that they value.
- rootsudo 6y agoCan you prove minks reason, think or have values? The fact that we're arguing this, means that it's understood it isn't a win/win factor.
- pinipedman 6y agoI can't prove that a sufficiently impaired mentally disabled human can reason, think, or have values. But I suppose if I wanted to raise thousands of mentally disabled humans in cages for the purpose of skinning them and selling their hides I would probably justify it to myself by asserting my inherent superiority based on their potential inability to replicate certain biological processes in the fatty organ within their craniums.
- ornornor 6y agoWay to go. How can you read about how these animals are farmed and the horrible existence they’re having and still say that.
- Sharlin 6y agoThey live on factory farms and then are killed for their fur. Frankly, this is a mercy killing.
- cblconfederate 6y agoFurs can still be collected and sterilized maybe?
- Sunspark 6y agoAre you volunteering to be the one to work with bodily fluids and aerosol droplets carrying Covid-20?
- cblconfederate 6y agoonly if the furs can be claimed from dead minks several days later
- NathanKP 6y ago> should naturally select the least deadly This only works for diseases where symptoms and being contagious are concurrent. In the case of Covid-19 we know that humans can be contagious without experiencing negative symptoms. The potentially fatal symptoms appear later on. The danger with that is that there is no reason for evolutionary processes to favor a less deadly strain as the disease has a window to spread before it starts damaging you. The evolutionary pressure towards being less deadly only happens because a disease that kills people too fast doesn't have time to spread as far as a less lethal strain. In the case of Covid the disease could easily evolve the opposite direction: to be 100% fatal after two weeks of non-symptomatic contagion. It would still be able to spread just fine using its initial two week period, so there would be little to no evolutionary pressure toward lower fatality rates.
- johanvts 6y agoIt would be able to spread further in 4 weeks, or even further still in 52 years...