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So you have an ideal of how you want society to be. Being serious, how are you going to get the land you need? It's not like any country is just going to give

by danjac 6y ago

So you have an ideal of how you want society to be. Being serious, how are you going to get the land you need? It's not like any country is just going to give you a spare island or two, especially if the island has enough viable resources to be worth occupying. You're going to have to take it from people who already live there, or persuade them that it's worth staying in your ideal society. Ask the Maoris or Palestians how that worked out. You might buy some land, but I'm guessing you're not Bezos, and you're not Musk either, so colonizing Mars is a no-go. Or...it looks like you want to change US law on the protection of religion. That's a specific change, that actually has a lot of support. The younger generation tends to be less religious than their parents, so there might be a long term trend behind you. Perhaps it might be worth getting on board with whatever groups are lobbying for that change. That's something actionable, rather than dreaming about starting a whole new country.

JabavuAdams 6y ago
This is sound and realistic advice. Certain kinds of change are possible within the system, but perhaps some useful changes are not? Is there a middle ground that would allow for experimentation without the hazards of revolution?
- danjac 6y ago
  As I'm guessing you are American: The US constitution itself is very resistant to change. It's doable, but very difficult in an era of deep polarization and partisanship. For example, many think the electoral college is undemocratic and outdated, but there is a vested interest by both parties in keeping it in place. That said, the "middle ground" is probably the states. For example, Oregon I believe just decriminalized all forms of recreational drug use. Who knows how that will turn out, but it's a social experiment that would have been unthinkable a decade ago. Another example - think of the communes in the 1960s or the Israeli kibbutzim or other experimental communities throughout history. Maybe try out your ideas on a small scale with a small group of people and see what works.
  - JabavuAdams 6y ago
    Actually, I'm Canadian, but good suggestions nonetheless.

by danjac 6y ago

JabavuAdams 6y ago

This is sound and realistic advice. Certain kinds of change are possible within the system, but perhaps some useful changes are not? Is there a middle ground that would allow for experimentation without the hazards of revolution?

danjac 6y ago
As I'm guessing you are American: The US constitution itself is very resistant to change. It's doable, but very difficult in an era of deep polarization and partisanship. For example, many think the electoral college is undemocratic and outdated, but there is a vested interest by both parties in keeping it in place. That said, the "middle ground" is probably the states. For example, Oregon I believe just decriminalized all forms of recreational drug use. Who knows how that will turn out, but it's a social experiment that would have been unthinkable a decade ago. Another example - think of the communes in the 1960s or the Israeli kibbutzim or other experimental communities throughout history. Maybe try out your ideas on a small scale with a small group of people and see what works.
- JabavuAdams 6y ago
  Actually, I'm Canadian, but good suggestions nonetheless.