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> But I can't bear the idea of actually raising a child. That responsibility Most people are like this. When you see friends with kids you realize it isn't roc

> But I can't bear the idea of actually raising a child. That responsibility Most people are like this. When you see friends with kids you realize it isn't rocket science.

Loughla 6y ago
>When you see friends with kids you realize it isn't rocket science. It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. That being said, all of the headaches are outweighed by watching a hot weirdo develop out of the tiny baby you made. It is amazingly funny to watch children figure out the world.
- toyg 6y ago
  > exceedingly hard to do consistently and well We hardly even agree on what that means. An ISIS terrorist grown of a family of ISIS terrorists would be “job well done” from the parents’ perspective.
  - wolfram74 6y ago
    Not all the time, there are enough examples of "I never wanted this life for you" in fiction that I can't believe it's entirely made up.
    - toyg 6y ago
      There are just as many examples of “I just wanted you to inherit the family business / uphold our traditional mores / have a simple life like we do”. It’s a very contentious topic and in many ways it was not even considered on a large scale until the 1960s, the default assumption being that someone born in a family of X should accept he is a X too, and the duty of their family was to raise them to be that X. This was even enforced legally, with aristocracy, slavery, castes, etc. Personal wishes and individual psychological wellbeing were just not a thing. Still today, the degree of conformity enforced on kids, that you see in many cultures, makes it extremely difficult to find a common definition of “good parenting”. Would a “good parent” force you to fast from sunrise to sunset for a month, or encourage you to join an organization that requires permanent celibacy? What about pushing you to prominently display your faith in everyday situations, despite the real possibility of physical violence against you? Or inviting you to mate inside the same ethnic community as your parents, “to keep traditions alive”? Or even just pushing you to follow fitness regimes, because “healthy”, even though you hate sports and exercise? Is that good or bad? These are very big questions and I don’t think we’re anywhere near finding common answers for them.
- orthoxerox 6y ago
  > It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. Children aren't clay you can mold to your liking. They are born with their own temper, their own aptitudes, their own limits, and it's the environment that does more than your conscious parenting to finish them as a person.
- x87678r 6y ago
  > It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. Virtually every adult in the world has children. You dont have to do it consistently or well.

> But I can't bear the idea of actually raising a child. That responsibility Most people are like this. When you see friends with kids you realize it isn't rocket science.

Loughla 6y ago

>When you see friends with kids you realize it isn't rocket science. It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. That being said, all of the headaches are outweighed by watching a hot weirdo develop out of the tiny baby you made. It is amazingly funny to watch children figure out the world.

toyg 6y ago
> exceedingly hard to do consistently and well We hardly even agree on what that means. An ISIS terrorist grown of a family of ISIS terrorists would be “job well done” from the parents’ perspective.
- wolfram74 6y ago
  Not all the time, there are enough examples of "I never wanted this life for you" in fiction that I can't believe it's entirely made up.
  - toyg 6y ago
    There are just as many examples of “I just wanted you to inherit the family business / uphold our traditional mores / have a simple life like we do”. It’s a very contentious topic and in many ways it was not even considered on a large scale until the 1960s, the default assumption being that someone born in a family of X should accept he is a X too, and the duty of their family was to raise them to be that X. This was even enforced legally, with aristocracy, slavery, castes, etc. Personal wishes and individual psychological wellbeing were just not a thing. Still today, the degree of conformity enforced on kids, that you see in many cultures, makes it extremely difficult to find a common definition of “good parenting”. Would a “good parent” force you to fast from sunrise to sunset for a month, or encourage you to join an organization that requires permanent celibacy? What about pushing you to prominently display your faith in everyday situations, despite the real possibility of physical violence against you? Or inviting you to mate inside the same ethnic community as your parents, “to keep traditions alive”? Or even just pushing you to follow fitness regimes, because “healthy”, even though you hate sports and exercise? Is that good or bad? These are very big questions and I don’t think we’re anywhere near finding common answers for them.
orthoxerox 6y ago
> It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. Children aren't clay you can mold to your liking. They are born with their own temper, their own aptitudes, their own limits, and it's the environment that does more than your conscious parenting to finish them as a person.
x87678r 6y ago
> It isn't hard to do, it's exceedingly hard to do consistently and well. Virtually every adult in the world has children. You dont have to do it consistently or well.