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It's not "half the country". In a recent Fox news (yes, those Fox news...) poll, they found that 72% of people were either "very concerned" or "somewhat concern

It's not "half the country". In a recent Fox news (yes, those Fox news...) poll, they found that 72% of people were either "very concerned" or "somewhat concerned" about climate change. What is true that none of the presidential candidates is taking the crisis seriously: Trump denies it, Biden pays a bit of lip service to it but has done very little about it with Obama, and will probably not do much about it if elected.

freeone3000 6y ago
Noting down your concern on a poll isn't the same as taking action - even the least action, voting for someone who is not a climate change denier, was beyond half the country. And if this sort of political action is what 73% produces? Then that figure isn't worth the poll paper it's printed on.
- einpoklum 6y ago
  By that argument, both halves should have voted for the Green Party candidate, Hawkins. I guess the half-the-country you like isn't taking climate change that seriously, either, right?
  - freeone3000 6y ago
    Exactly. The poll does not dictate any action - you might as well ask people if they like puppies. Sure, most people like having an environment, but they also like sitting in an air-conditioned SUV on their trip to Wal-Mart to buy a gallon of milk. Polls like this are how you get people who are absolutely in favor of better public education, but every bond measure for the last 8 years has failed. They're useless as a policy dictating measure.
tootie 6y ago
Saying they take it seriously and then putting parochial concerns ahead of it at the polls every single time. And there's a vast gulf between Obama/Biden not doing enough while Trump and the GOP are running us backwards as fast as they can. Just look at the last two administrations positions on vehicle mileage standards. Obama pushed for a huge increase and got car manufactured onboard pretty enthusiastically. Trump just undid it completely and the auto companies are actually upset. That's just unconscionable.

freeone3000 6y ago

Noting down your concern on a poll isn't the same as taking action - even the least action, voting for someone who is not a climate change denier, was beyond half the country. And if this sort of political action is what 73% produces? Then that figure isn't worth the poll paper it's printed on.

einpoklum 6y ago
By that argument, both halves should have voted for the Green Party candidate, Hawkins. I guess the half-the-country you like isn't taking climate change that seriously, either, right?
- freeone3000 6y ago
  Exactly. The poll does not dictate any action - you might as well ask people if they like puppies. Sure, most people like having an environment, but they also like sitting in an air-conditioned SUV on their trip to Wal-Mart to buy a gallon of milk. Polls like this are how you get people who are absolutely in favor of better public education, but every bond measure for the last 8 years has failed. They're useless as a policy dictating measure.

tootie 6y ago

Saying they take it seriously and then putting parochial concerns ahead of it at the polls every single time. And there's a vast gulf between Obama/Biden not doing enough while Trump and the GOP are running us backwards as fast as they can. Just look at the last two administrations positions on vehicle mileage standards. Obama pushed for a huge increase and got car manufactured onboard pretty enthusiastically. Trump just undid it completely and the auto companies are actually upset. That's just unconscionable.