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> So Tesla is being built in China? Non-sequitur. I never said about things US internally makes. Also Tesla makes like 1% of all US cars? But a lot of US impo

by Ygg2 6y ago

> So Tesla is being built in China? Non-sequitur. I never said about things US internally makes. Also Tesla makes like 1% of all US cars? But a lot of US imports are from China. And if a large part of those imports became "green", I doubt Chinese authorities would build non-green infra just to spite Americans and/or the World.

giantg2 6y ago
You specifically mentioned electric cars in the US, of which Tesla is the largest producer. So this is a valid assumption to make. Do you have any information that would suggest a change in this model, such as GM or Ford sourcing their motors or batteries from China? What examples do you have of green tech exported from China that has found widespread adoption in China?
- Ygg2 6y ago
  > You specifically mentioned electric cars in the US, of which Tesla is the largest producer I said "So if US goes all electric car, China would follow suit, etc." I didn't say if a single company in US goes electric car, China would follow suit. I quantified it as "all/most" not "exists". > What examples do you have of green tech exported from China that has found widespread adoption in China? Not green tech specifically, but most tech exported from China is also present locally in China.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    "What China makes for US they also use a version of that internally." You are implying that China would be producing the cars, or at least the primary components. But you have provided no support for this. Current production and sourcing partnerships show no evidence to support your implication. Even ICE vehicles in the US overwhelmingly have the engine and transmission built in countries other than China, with a large number being built in the US, Canada, and Mexico.
    - Ygg2 6y ago
      > You are implying that China would be producing the cars, or at least the primary components. They already are. Just because US doesn't buy all components from China doesn't mean that China won't develop those components for other markets or its internal use. But electric cars are at the moment a minority in China, if US went all-in on electric cars (an assuming no tariff war with China), that would kickstart mass conversion of car manufacturing process to electric. >Even ICE vehicles in the US overwhelmingly have the engine and transmission built in countries other than China, ICE != EV Yeah, because perfecting ICE takes decades of investment. Compared to them EV are easy and China already knows how to make them. Hell, they have entire logistic lines worked out for electrical motors. https://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2020/01/02/china-has-never-mastered-internal-combustion-engines https://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2020/01/02/ch...

by Ygg2 6y ago

giantg2 6y ago

You specifically mentioned electric cars in the US, of which Tesla is the largest producer. So this is a valid assumption to make. Do you have any information that would suggest a change in this model, such as GM or Ford sourcing their motors or batteries from China? What examples do you have of green tech exported from China that has found widespread adoption in China?

Ygg2 6y ago
> You specifically mentioned electric cars in the US, of which Tesla is the largest producer I said "So if US goes all electric car, China would follow suit, etc." I didn't say if a single company in US goes electric car, China would follow suit. I quantified it as "all/most" not "exists". > What examples do you have of green tech exported from China that has found widespread adoption in China? Not green tech specifically, but most tech exported from China is also present locally in China.
- giantg2 6y ago
  "What China makes for US they also use a version of that internally." You are implying that China would be producing the cars, or at least the primary components. But you have provided no support for this. Current production and sourcing partnerships show no evidence to support your implication. Even ICE vehicles in the US overwhelmingly have the engine and transmission built in countries other than China, with a large number being built in the US, Canada, and Mexico.
  - Ygg2 6y ago
    > You are implying that China would be producing the cars, or at least the primary components. They already are. Just because US doesn't buy all components from China doesn't mean that China won't develop those components for other markets or its internal use. But electric cars are at the moment a minority in China, if US went all-in on electric cars (an assuming no tariff war with China), that would kickstart mass conversion of car manufacturing process to electric. >Even ICE vehicles in the US overwhelmingly have the engine and transmission built in countries other than China, ICE != EV Yeah, because perfecting ICE takes decades of investment. Compared to them EV are easy and China already knows how to make them. Hell, they have entire logistic lines worked out for electrical motors. https://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2020/01/02/china-has-never-mastered-internal-combustion-engines https://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2020/01/02/ch...