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Good. The Paris accord is not worth the paper it’s written on. It’s non-biding, it has no enforcement, and the goals where self imposed and for some countries
by xondono 6y ago
Good.
The Paris accord is not worth the paper it’s written on.
It’s non-biding, it has no enforcement, and the goals where self imposed and for some countries ridiculous.
Even if it’s not for the right reasons, the US leaving might force world leaders to actually do something.
- bamboozled 6y agoWhy would the United States leaving force leaders to do something ? Seems like very obscure logic.
- fbelzile 6y agoAnd how is it not worth it? You said it yourself. It was non-biding, no enforcement, goals where self imposed and the US government still didn't want to take part. What kind of message is that sending?
- randomchars 6y agoThat you don't want to take part in a bullshit agreement that has no effect on anything. Why would it be better to pretend?
- fbelzile 6y agoThe Paris Agreement is useful in creating goals for emission targets so countries can work towards them. Sure, the goal posts can and will change, but they'll always be pointed downfield. If the US creates an alternative to the Paris Agreement that has more teeth, there might be an opportunity cost. Until then, this is the best thing we have.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoHow about just take part, and not pretend? The message being sent here is, "in the global coordination problem of climate change, I'm the defector and the freeloader, and I need to be coerced to take part".
- VLM 6y agoIt was a big virtue signaling show where nobody involved made any changes. Which some will always see as a huge success because it avoids any need to do anything as long as declarations of support are cheered and awareness is raised and verbal support is given.
- fbelzile 6y agoPolitics is always going to have an element of self-interest. As bad as the agreement is, can't we agree that doing something is better than doing nothing? We can change an existing accord to make it better in a few years, but you can't improve something that doesn't exist.
- giantg2 6y agoWell, you could take the position that not flying in all those politicians to sign the accord (and all the other resources the accord used) would have effectively done more than the accord itself, given that the resulting policies were self-imposed and could have been enacted without the international accord.
- bluntfang 6y agoi thought the sentiment was that personal life/work and politics should be kept separate and intermingling them is capital B Bad.
- emptyfile 6y ago>the US leaving might force world leaders to actually do something Hah! No, the Paris accord, the "no enforcement, and the goals where self imposed and for some countries ridiculous" Paris accord is the world "doing something". Even that will not be reached.