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Kinda sorta. The US is likely to officially re-enter the Paris climate accord in 77 days.

by elgenie 6y ago

notRobot 6y ago
Only if Biden wins. We won't know for sure yet, for a while.
- meragrin_ 6y ago
  And it still doesn't mean squat if the US Senate does not approve.
  - nojvek 6y ago
    Even if Biden wins but Senate is mostly republican (which is very likely), Biden can’t do much. Senate will keep tossing it out as it did with Obama’s 2nd term. Democrats need both the presidency and majority senate to be able to get shit done.
  - elgenie 6y ago
    Senate is irrelevant in this case because the Paris Agreement is not regarded as a treaty. The Senate didn’t ratify anything five years ago either.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  Not looking good.
  - pashamur 6y ago
    Looking better than ever, according to predictit; the senate, however, is a different matter.
  - astura 6y ago
    It looks like that because unlike most states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania didn't start counting their mail-in votes until after in person votes. Mail in votes will almost certainly heavily skew blue and there's substantial numbers of them this year. Not saying Biden will definitely win, just we can't tell yet. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/whats-behind-trumps-leads-in-michigan-and-pennsylvania-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/whats-behind-trumps-leads-in...
    - perryizgr8 6y ago
      > Mail in votes will almost certainly heavily skew blue. Is there a good explanation for that assertion? I've seen it being said in many places but never any reason for it. Why would mail in votes skew in a particular direction?
      - astura 6y ago
        It's in the article I shared in the GP >Starting early this year, the coronavirus pandemic prompted millions of voters across the country to request mail-in ballots in order to avoid exposure to the virus at the polls. And while the party breakdown for mail-in ballots started off fairly even, it split off after Trump launched a monthslong crusade to discredit mail-in voting. >As Election Day neared, some states, like Florida and North Carolina, tallied up the mail-in ballots they received ahead of time, and then released that total soon after the polls closed on Election Day, and before they finished counting up the in-person votes... they tended to show early leads for Biden which disappeared once all the in-person votes (which tended to favor Trump) were counted. This was dubbed the blue mirage. Also https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/10/09/voter-engagement-and-interest-voting-by-mail-and-in-person/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/10/09/voter-engage... >Trump supporters are more than twice as likely as Biden supporters to say they plan to vote in person on Election Day (50% vs. 20%). By contrast, 51% of Biden supporters say they plan to vote by mail or absentee (or have already voted this way). A quarter of Trump supporters (25%) say they plan to vote by mail or absentee.
      - zo1 6y ago
        The going conspiracy reason is that it's because the "Left" is using mail-in ballots to commit election fraud. To be fair, I still don't understand how we can have such manual, potentially-manipulated and mistrusted voting systems in 2020. Like, how difficult would it be for everyone to vote in a secure, cryptographically hidden and verified manner, using some sort booth/app/device/website with proper identity verification linked to your government identification databases? It's beyond scary and infuriating that with all this technology and really smart people around that we still have to have papers, mails and random fallible/corruptible volunteers doing the counting.

Kinda sorta. The US is likely to officially re-enter the Paris climate accord in 77 days.

notRobot 6y ago

Only if Biden wins. We won't know for sure yet, for a while.

meragrin_ 6y ago
And it still doesn't mean squat if the US Senate does not approve.
- nojvek 6y ago
  Even if Biden wins but Senate is mostly republican (which is very likely), Biden can’t do much. Senate will keep tossing it out as it did with Obama’s 2nd term. Democrats need both the presidency and majority senate to be able to get shit done.
- elgenie 6y ago
  Senate is irrelevant in this case because the Paris Agreement is not regarded as a treaty. The Senate didn’t ratify anything five years ago either.
koheripbal 6y ago
Not looking good.
- pashamur 6y ago
  Looking better than ever, according to predictit; the senate, however, is a different matter.
- astura 6y ago
  It looks like that because unlike most states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania didn't start counting their mail-in votes until after in person votes. Mail in votes will almost certainly heavily skew blue and there's substantial numbers of them this year. Not saying Biden will definitely win, just we can't tell yet. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/whats-behind-trumps-leads-in-michigan-and-pennsylvania-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/whats-behind-trumps-leads-in...
  - perryizgr8 6y ago
    > Mail in votes will almost certainly heavily skew blue. Is there a good explanation for that assertion? I've seen it being said in many places but never any reason for it. Why would mail in votes skew in a particular direction?
    - astura 6y ago
      It's in the article I shared in the GP >Starting early this year, the coronavirus pandemic prompted millions of voters across the country to request mail-in ballots in order to avoid exposure to the virus at the polls. And while the party breakdown for mail-in ballots started off fairly even, it split off after Trump launched a monthslong crusade to discredit mail-in voting. >As Election Day neared, some states, like Florida and North Carolina, tallied up the mail-in ballots they received ahead of time, and then released that total soon after the polls closed on Election Day, and before they finished counting up the in-person votes... they tended to show early leads for Biden which disappeared once all the in-person votes (which tended to favor Trump) were counted. This was dubbed the blue mirage. Also https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/10/09/voter-engagement-and-interest-voting-by-mail-and-in-person/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/10/09/voter-engage... >Trump supporters are more than twice as likely as Biden supporters to say they plan to vote in person on Election Day (50% vs. 20%). By contrast, 51% of Biden supporters say they plan to vote by mail or absentee (or have already voted this way). A quarter of Trump supporters (25%) say they plan to vote by mail or absentee.
    - zo1 6y ago
      The going conspiracy reason is that it's because the "Left" is using mail-in ballots to commit election fraud. To be fair, I still don't understand how we can have such manual, potentially-manipulated and mistrusted voting systems in 2020. Like, how difficult would it be for everyone to vote in a secure, cryptographically hidden and verified manner, using some sort booth/app/device/website with proper identity verification linked to your government identification databases? It's beyond scary and infuriating that with all this technology and really smart people around that we still have to have papers, mails and random fallible/corruptible volunteers doing the counting.